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Hey Mar
these are good news.
Dont warry about Pisang Raja it will sprout as soon as it feels ready, maybe even with new pup instead that one. As I can see from picture it is a live. Have U checked the roots? One of mine IC corms was like that for a long time and pushing all energy in one single root. Funny, right? Now its forming new litlle horn and prepare to pop up from the side of old pup.
It will be fine ;).
:woohoonaner:

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i think your pisang raja still good. i also have TC plant pisang ambon (white and yellow) and pisang raja also.

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Nice job Marguerite, measure the black part length every day and if it starts spreading further to the corm, cut it away. I lost one plant due to not measuring and seeing the rot progress. Good Luck. :D
Always nice to see a new pup emerging from a rare corm.

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By all means cut the brown portion of the top of the raja if you feel it has rooted in properly. It looks from the base that its ready to pop. I've done this 4 or 5 times now with plants that were stubborn about coming out and the results were outstanding.....100% so far. I had one Burmese blue that I didn't do this to because I was new to this last year and it never did pop out of the top. It did put out a nice pup though and grew from that.

As usual if you're tired of looking at Pisang Ambon, you know where to send it:ha:( a man can dream!)

Thanks for the update, keep them coming.

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What size pot have you got it in Marenmar.The pot looks a lot larger than the corm.Have you added perlite to the soil to open it up as i cant see any in the pics.

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:03:Hi everyone, many thanks for your support & replies!

@ Jack,
The black part is growing, for sure :eek: That's why I cut off the other "leave parts" (so I could look what was inside).

@BOB,
Not sure about the roots, but when I put it in this pot, the "old"root showed tiny white branches. I think by now (1.5 month later) it should have developed mor roots.

If I cut it off, wouldn't it just get brown and rot more and more? (am just affraid that the same process will happen again). When I cut it, do I only have to keep it dry or do I also need some fungicide?

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As usual if you're tired of looking at Pisang Ambon, you know where to send it( a man can dream!)

I know I know, but I'm not tired yet :D LOL

@Mushtaq86

It's in a 19 Litre/5 Gallon/40 Pint pot. I used special, well draining soil (best available) It's very light, and when you push on it it kinda bounces back. I also added perlite (maybe not as much, as you couldn't trace it ;) )
The part of the corm under the soil is quite large D=15cm/6inches.

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You have to cut/peel it to healthy tissue. Otherwise it will start rotting along the P-stem and you own't win the fight. Do small slices, 0,5cm deep until you are sure there's only healthy tissue below. Sometimes it happened to me that there was a completely healthy tissue and 5cm below it was a rotting ball, so the naner didn't grow. You have to locate and cut off the lowest rotting point. If you do that, the cut wound will seal and get brown/black, but iit will show signs of new growth within a week.
If you don't remove it, you risk spreading that rot also to corm.

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Thanks Jack :) , I'll do that. Did you use any fungicide? Dit you remove the water which comes out the plant when you cut it?

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No fungicide at all. Cut wound on the banana tissue will make it release some water-like preservant that seals the wound. It then gets darker and is completely dry.
Maybe a fungicide might help, I haven't tried that.

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Marenmar, definitely cut it just till you see the green showing. I just now did it with the Bluefields and once you expose the green portion to the light they tend to start growing right away. The Pisang Raja looks to be sealed tight on top. If there's one thing I learned for sure over the last year is that this technique works very well and you shouldn't be afraid to do it. It will just start growing all that much faster.

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Thanks Jack, Bob!!!

So, pfff.. job done! :2212: Here some pics of the cut pisang Raja!
It's night over here, so pics are a bit yellowish. I tried my best to find some green...and now..wait?! I'm excited:2744:

result


water from cutting


cut piece

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Nice. It seems to be yellow-green-white, just as it should be. Unless there's some problem even further below the point you cut it in, it should seal the wound within 2 days and start growing in week(s) after that. It's like stimulating.
I would even go as far as to remove to side leaf sheets (remnants of the leaves you removed). As a dying tissue they might be quite susceptible to rot.

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Another update:)

Pisang ambon / Musa Gros Michel


Pisang Raja / Musa Belle

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Hey those look nice, Thanks for showing the progress.

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Glad to see the "Holy Grail" is up and growing well. The Pisang Raja looks like it "tried" to put on some growth and stopped for some reason. maybe an increase in temerature would help.

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Well, Ambon's first big leave is out!!!WoohooooW YEAH!:goteam:


Dunno what Raja is doing...I cut it, and now it's pointed again....
just keepin it warm...

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congaratulation

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Marguerite , the Pisang Ambon seems to be well on its way. Just baby it till it becomes a "real" banana plant and you've got it made.
I've had a few that have behaved like the Pisang Raja( some currently in the front porch), from the picture it seems to be ok maybe it just needs to develop some roots before the top grows. Keep it warm and properly watered and it should be fine. Well done!:goteam:

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A little update: Veeery slowly, a second leaves is on it's way:)


Maybe?! Go raja, Go Raja!:goteam:

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:woohoonaner:
Go Raja go,
Go Raja go,
Go Raja go,
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...
:woohoonaner:

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Glad to see the Ambon doing well. I second Antes' sentiments..... "go Raja go!":woohoonaner:

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Marguerite, long time no see. :D How are you and your naners doing?

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Hi Jack!!!
Everything is fine here:D Ambon's doing great! Second big leaf's out:woohoonaner:
Since a few days it's snowing like never before (last time was in '81)!!!!
15cm layer is on the street. People here are not used to it so: public transport is a chaos, traffic jams and car crashes, slidings all over the place. Today I went to work by bike on the big road "car tracks":).
Here;s a pic of the nanner's view outside the window:

btw, this car isn't a Dodge Ram Van...or a Caddy Escalade.....it's a Fiat Punto;)!

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Looking good mar, how about the second pup, anything new?

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Hi,
it's doing "something" but it is still looking more or less the same:) so, that isn't bad either! Besides, with more light every day from now, I keep my hopes up!!

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Ambon is looking better all the time. I notice my bananas really start perking up in February indoors and maybe the Raja will as well. Of course any additional light and heat wouldn't hurt either.

Surprised to hear you don't get snow that often in Netherlands...not that I know a thing about your country other than it's far north of my latitude( I get lots of snow). I would guess by looking at the map that it is affected by the gulf stream and has a similar climate to the UK. Is that about right?

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That last sentence pretty much sums it up. ;) Including the windiness.

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Yeah, Jack's right, although there are rainy days over here:woohoonaner:
2 months until february:goteam: I'll soon post an update pic of raja too:) It's turning green a LITTLE bit!

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We have had the same problem in the UK,its been ten years since we have had snow this bad.I thought we where supposedly,having global warming.:ha::ha::ha:

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We had the same thoughts...two weeks ago! Forget global warming, prepare for the dinosaurs!

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:ha: :ha: :ha:

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All your encouragements have great effects! Raja's making progress!!!!!!

RAJA, so green!


AMBON, working on it's 3rd big leave!

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Great news Mar!
Told ya ;)
:goteam:go Raja go!:goteam:
:woohoonaner:

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Very Happy for you Marguerite:woohoonaner: Your perseverance paid off. Well done!

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And it's growing and it's growing... you're officially a corm expert now, Marguerite. ;)

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:woohoonaner: YEAH! But only thanks to you guys!!!!:goteam:

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Look at these Beauties!!!

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:woohoonaner:
Told Ya! :ha:
:woohoonaner:

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Hm, Marguerite, the one on the right will want to be repotted very soon. With a veeeery big pot to allow good growth later in the season. ;)

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Hi Marguerite, they're looking great. I was worried about the pisang raja but now it's in the clear and should do well. If you dont have a big enough pot for the "Ambon" I do so feel free to send:ha:

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Growth update: still growing great!

Pisang Ambon:


Pisang Raja:

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Wow nice, Marguerite, one's really taken off. What have you been feeding them these past few weeks (and general PM for you, how do you do, what's new in NL... ;) )

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Hi Jack, tnx. Actually haven't been feeding them since august...when I potted them...
But: soil is the richest potting soil available:D
Maybe time to start feeding them...!!! Suggestions?

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Definitely! ;)

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Hi! Pisang ambon is the same as gros michel variety? And pisang emas or gold banana is correlated with what variety? Thank's!

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I think pisang emas is the same as Lady Finger banana...

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Great blog about malasian bananas Endah Murniyati's Journey: Banana

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Great doc about it too: http://www.utar.edu.my/fsaj/file/UAS...in%20Perak.pdf

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