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04-27-2021, 12:59 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Pacific Banana Catalogs
As some of your may know, I am a banana researcher in Hawaii, and I would like to share some of my work documenting Pacific banana varieties from 3 expeditions in 2019. Enjoy!
Cook Islands: https://repo.mel.cgiar.org/handle/20.500.11766/12873 Samoa: https://repo.mel.cgiar.org/handle/20.500.11766/12874 West New Britain, PNG: https://repo.mel.cgiar.org/handle/20.500.11766/12875
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Very cool! Thanks Gabe!
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Nice, will sit down and read the first one now.
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Wow, that's a lot of bananas! But then maybe that's just my relatively ignorant, northern perspective?
Thanks for sharing!
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Amazing research! Very good read. Tons of info and pictures, Thanks!
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I've come across a number of bananas which are confusing or mysterious in their genetic background and relationships to other known things, what has surprised me is the amount of genetic diversity which is still unknown or unclear. It's one thing to find new cultivars within a known genetic group, but I suppose I've been surprised at how many new genetic groups we have also found, some of which we don't know where they came from or what they are related to. Here is another article detailing one such cultivar, 'Menengan' in Madang, PNG. https://www.promusa.org/blogpost656-...s-expectations
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Thanks for sharing the results of your expeditions. I found the different colors of the bananas (inside and out) interesting. Pretty cool!!
Gabe, not too long ago you mentioned a banana plant you may bring to the market that is a dwarf/mini-dwarf that fruits nice size bananas. Any news or developments, photos, etc. on that? Thanks again! |
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What blows my mind is how many different seedless edible varieties/hybrids exist, and how Gabe keeps finding new ones.
How are there so many when successfully breeding a new variety is extremely difficult? Phil Rowe, who led the FHIA breeding program for many years before his death in 2003, invented the now-standard procedure for creating banana hybrids. The first step is to gather as much pollen as possible from the chosen male parent and use it to fertilize potential female parents at the flowering stage. Next comes a four- or five-month wait for the plants to produce fruit. Then the bananas are harvested, peeled by hand and pressed through a sieve. A ton of fruit might yield a handful of seeds, less than half of which will germinate naturally. After the precious few seedlings are planted comes another 9- to 18-month wait. Were people actively trying to breed new varieties? Or did people just plant the 1 in a Million seed they found in a edible banana? Apparently it was only until the 16th century Spanish explorers carried bananas from Africa’s west coast to Latin America.
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What do I have to do to be able to read this? I tried to join MEL and it said that it was unable to send an email.
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