Worm_Farmer

Great job! Its really looking good.
Now Fly to FL and make this happen at my hosue.

Kat2

I live pretty close so you can kill 2 birds with one stone.

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Darkman

My house is the closest so I'll let you practice at my house!!!!!

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Kat2

You need no help; your place is beautiful. I'm surprised you didn't sweeten the pot with an offer of 'que.

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Richard

Today I installed 13 galvanized metal posts in my secondary retaining wall. They will serve as uprights for a railing and also the base of them will provide attachments for lateral support to a grape trellis going in behind the railing.

You can see some of the horizontal pieces for the railing in the photo. The bricks at the bottom of the posts are just temporary supports while the mortar dries.

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CountryBoy1981

Good to see you back on the forum again. How has everything been with you? Also I was in pensacola on highway 90 and the Home Depot there has the "Lila" avocado variety that is hardy to 14 once established.

trebor

Grapes! Now your talking... them things are awesome when you can walk over and pick them off the vine. No I dont have any ...

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Darkman

I am doing well but last year set me so far behind and I'm trying desperately to catch up. I'll call them and see if they still have any. I also check my local store in the morning.

Love looking at Richards progress to motivate me.

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Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable!

Statistics - Data that analyst twist to support the insane opinions of those that pay them.

Richard

Prelude to a trellis

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Funkthulhu

I gotta say, this is one of 4 or 5 threads I check every day regardless of updates. I am amazed and inspired by the transformation of this property.

It really gives me some ideas for my own home when I get the chance.

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Richard

Here's the progress on my "vineyard" trellis as viewed from the southern end. All the vertical and horizontal structural pieces are finished. The top rails are about 8 feet long and 8 ft above the ground level on the right. The ground level gradually slopes down, then upward to the north so the trellis height steps up incrementally down then up with respect to the horizon. Overall there are 10 sections for a total length of 80 feet. At the moment I'm waiting on ten 3 ft x 8 ft lattice sections to install horizontally across the top. These will support the vines that will be trained across the top. In the meantime there are plenty of other tasks to complete -- as you can see on the left of the photo I have cinder block waiting for installation of herb and vegetable planter beds.

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Darkman

Hi Richard,

Are you using the lattice for aesthetics or is there another reason. Is the lattice wood or plastic. I used 8 ga. tensioned wire and I still get dips in the wire between "T" posts. You will be supporting a pretty heavy weight with these vines and they just get bigger every year since you do not cut them back to the trunk. If you run the vines across the top it will be harder to get to for pruning. Not sure about grapes but muscadines get pruned back to the short spurs off the cordon each February. Eventually muscadines properly pruned will look like stag horns growing off the cordon. From the short side I'm guessing the lattice will be about four feet off the ground and you would have to reach out over the lattice for pruning, is that about right?

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Life - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong!

Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable!

Statistics - Data that analyst twist to support the insane opinions of those that pay them.

Richard

I grew grapes on a lattice at my previous home. This time around I want to be able to walk under my vines. I am using pressure-treated 2x4s for both the uprights and horizontals. The horizontals are attached with joist hangers and straps. There's 11 uprights, 10 horizontals, and 5 vines. Each of the vines spans two horizontals supported by 3 uprights. Soon I'll place ten 32" by 7.5' ladder trellises horizontally on top to support tertiary branching during the growing season. The tertiary branches will be kept to 5 feet as is common with vineyard practice. My plan is to remove them all each winter back to the two main horizontals running across the top.
The structure is only 16 inches away from the center of the "short side".
Yes.

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Richard

One of my new toys -- a collated screw gun.

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Kat2

Nice! I'm looking for a used recip.

Kinda completely OT but I picked up a male and female kiwi on Mother's Day. (It's become a tradition to buy myself plants that day--someone has to, right?) I don't have a trellis or the ability to put one up but I do have metal posts on my carport, a privacy fence and a couple of tall scrub pines. Would any of those work?

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Richard

Over time standard Kiwis can get big. They can easily envelope 100 feet of chain link fence with vines 1"-3" in diameter and leaves 10" to 16" across. On the plus side, the female will rain fruit on you.

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Kat2

That's what I've read but supposedly you can prune them back. (I grew grapes once upon a time.) So tree, fence or pole?

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Richard

With a chainsaw. Once they get roots established in a temperate climate they are far more vigorous than grapes.
Minimum 40' of fence for sanity.

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Kat2

Since this is your thread, I'll ask another question. I have 40' plus of chain link that needs some repair along the back of my lot; lots of ambient light but probably only 2 to 4 hours of morning sun. (Giant elephant ears are quite happy there as is whatever this plant that resembles wandering Jew; trash trees grow fine also. Other plants but I just haven't mowed to the edge yet.) Would kiwis survive there? Perhaps lower light would tame the beast.

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Richard

Fruiting would be doubtful.

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