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Old 09-26-2012, 10:21 AM   #21 (permalink)
 
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I think the longest any bunch has taken to ripen on the plant in my garden was 7 months and that was a Jamaican Red.
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You get more warmth than me, even though we're only about 60 miles apart. I have a bunch of Orinoco that have been hanging for 11 months and still haven't ripened! They have ripened if I cut them off the plant, but the rest I've left hanging are still green. Ridiculous!
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Default Re: Mysore / Pisang Klotek - Worth it?

wait .so the plant can just hang a bunch forever?

in other words
Can my Mysore just hold the fruit and it never ripen?

I haven't studied excessive hanging. Do the fingers continue to fill?
Maybe there was mention in some FHIA pdfs.. .#3 I think they mentioned delayed harvesting over 4 months.

What is the limit? Squirrel?
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wait .so the plant can just hang a bunch forever?

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Can my Mysore just hold the fruit and it never ripen?

I haven't studied excessive hanging. Do the fingers continue to fill?
Maybe there was mention in some FHIA pdfs.. .#3 I think they mentioned delayed harvesting over 4 months.

What is the limit? Squirrel?
No, a plant can't hang a bunch forever. And I think they will always ripen even if they never fill, though they might just rot before ripening if conditions are bad enough (e.g., too cold). The bananas I'm talking about have filled, i.e., they are mature and harvestable, they just haven't yet ripened "on the vine".

Growth and fruit maturity in bananas is really driven by proper, warm temperatures. The plant needs to accumulate enough "degree days". For example, a banana plant in Miami FL would accumulate something like 3 times more degrees days per year than would one in Ventura CA. So, banana plants grow and mature fruit much faster in Miami than Ventura.
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...I have a bunch of Orinoco that have been hanging for 11 months and still haven't ripened! They have ripened if I cut them off the plant, but the rest I've left hanging are still green. Ridiculous!
I don't understand that. My Orinoco ripen in four months from bloom in my 8b/9a garden. Your a 10.

What gives?

I have already harvested three bunches this year.
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I don't understand that. My Orinoco ripen in four months from bloom in my 8b/9a garden. Your a 10.

What gives?

I have already harvested three bunches this year.
I think it has something to do with sunlight, time of year (weather) when it blooms, humidity and other factors. I have an HA bunch that's been hanging forever due to blooming at the wrong time of year, and being neglected food and water wise. Lots of pups were removed from it as well so some root damage was surely done in the process.

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I don't understand that. My Orinoco ripen in four months from bloom in my 8b/9a garden. Your a 10.

What gives?

I have already harvested three bunches this year.
How hot was it in your zone 8 for those 4 months ?
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I don't understand that. My Orinoco ripen in four months from bloom in my 8b/9a garden. Your a 10.

What gives?
Dude, simple physiology and climate differences. What was the average daily temperature for you since May? A lot higher than mine. Bananas need heat to grow and mature and I don't get much of it. At your house, summer is like the tropics. At my house it isn't like the tropics during summer. Like a friend of mine once said, "the coldest winter I ever had was a summer in Ventura!" Those zone numbers are mostly based on minimum annual temperatures, not maximum annual temperatures.
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I 2nd that motion I got stuck in Carlsbad / oceanside not far from the beach for 90days during the summer, and froze compared to being in Central Texas.
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How hot was it in your zone 8 for those 4 months ?
For 2012
June Avg low 73 hi 88
July Avg low 76 hi 90
Aug Avg low 75 hi 89
Sept Avg low 71 hi 87
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For 2012
June Avg low 73 hi 88
July Avg low 76 hi 90
Aug Avg low 75 hi 89
Sept Avg low 71 hi 87
My bananas wish they had your summer weather Darkman!

Here's what we've had for 2012 at the closest weather station (which is a bit warmer than my house):

avg. low; avg. high; avg. temp.:
May 52 69 61
June 56 71 64
July 57 72 64
Aug 60 78 69

You're averaging about 15-20 degrees higher than me. The fastest banana growth and bunch ripening happens in the 80's -- which is about your daily average for the summer months. As you can see, my daily average is in the 60's. Put that way, I should just be happy I ever get ripe bananas at my house! Even if it takes a year to ripen a bunch.
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Dang Mark my April average is better than that.. Ave Low 54F Ave High 77F
March is close I suppose Ave Low is 45F w/ a Ave High of 70F.. Now If I could get rid of my freezes I'd be great. I say they need to miss me and go east.. :^)
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:47 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Wow! Your zone 10 with an asteric* LOL
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