tyoro0219

I bought this banana from rare-plants shop.

I do not know except for this banana is named Musa Vittata.
If you have any information, please let me know.

Thanks for any all information.

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MediaHound

Thats beautiful!

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bigdog

Wooooooowwww! That's a very nice variegated banana! I have never seen nor heard of that one. I don't think it's available in the States.

Zac in NC

Yeah that is a stunning plant.

Zac

Gabe15

It is a very old and outdated name for normal Musa 'Ae Ae'. A very nice plant none the less.

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Carolina

Wow, that is one beautiful plant! Think when the time comes, I'll plant mine in a white pot. It really brings out the variegation.

Thanks for explaining that, Gabe.

eggo

Are we sure that Musa Ae Ae is the same as Musa Vittata? I have heard that Vittata has different growth habits than Ae Ae. Its suppose to be more slender, slower grower, and more delicate leaves.

There is also another variegate Musa out there similiar to "Ae Ae" and "Vittata" called "Florida Variegated" unfortunately I haven't found anyone one in Florida that recognize this one. According to Thai collectors it is listed as a different plant than Ae Ae. It was brought from Florida, similiar variegation pattern as "Ae Ae" but it supposedly has much slender leaves and a more reddish pseudotrunk.

tyoro0219

Thanks for everyone!!!

This banana and AeAe are same?

I also have AeAe.
Comparing two bananas, I think that this banana's leaf is slender and more delicately than AeAe.
The white part of the leaf is as thin as transparent.

jeffreyp

To be honest with you, it doesn't look like an aeae, at least all the aeae's i've seen and grown. The pointed leaves gives the impression that it's not a banana either. I get the feeling it could possibly be some type of variegated heliconia or something else?

for example..

http://naturalselections.safeshopper...29/744.htm?775

MediaHound

Is the possibility of a variegated Canna 'Stuttgart' ruled out?
http://www.plantdelights.com/Catalog...ail/01972.html

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Zac in NC

Jarred- Its not Stuttgart. Thats definitely a Musa.

Zac

tyoro0219

add more one pic.

I am convinced that it is not a heliconia because a form of the leaf is different.
But, it resemble Canna 'Stuttgart'.....

The part which distinguishes between Musa and the Canna?

Gabe15

That is a Musa for sure, nothing else. As far as the thin leaves, my 'Ae Ae' looked the same when young, you cant judge what a mature plant will look like based on it juvenile state. Musa x paradisiaca is an invalid name to begin with, and the cultivar name 'Vittata' has been used in many different cases for 'Ae Ae'. Musa paradisiaca is simply a type name for any banana, there is not any plant actually called Musa paradisiaca. Musa x paradisiaca is trying to show that edible bananas are hybrids, which are also sometimes written as Musa sapientum. Again, none of these are real plants, they are just names that mean "banana" in general. The name Musa x paradisiaca 'Vittata' came from the era when many edible bananas were being incorrectly identified and classified as actual species (species meaning wild bananas). At this same time, many wild bananas were being named Musa pardisiaca var......., again these were not immediatly recognized as seperate species because the orgins of the edible banana had many botanists confused for a very long time. These names are not valid anymore, as many of you know, wild bananas are written just like any wild species (like Musa acuminata, Musa velutina....), but edible bananas have for some time now had thier own unique naming system, which in this case would be Musa 'Ae Ae' (AAB), however unless you are holding a research colection, the genetics part is not important. Edible bananas are not species so rightfully so, they cannot be given species names (latin binomials).

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jeffreyp

The leaves makes it look alot like a Canna 'Stuttgart' but cannas have more of a 'cane' type of a trunk and alternating leaves..Gabe is right about his idea of the shape of juvenile plants vs. adult plants. Btw, Gabe, how is your abacá plant doing?

Gabe15

I dont grow abaca (Musa textilis), i have one which is called Musa textilis but is really some M. balbisiana hybrid (seems to be the only one you can buy in the USA), it was doing ok, took a very long time to get rooted but then as of a few days ago the leaves started to wilt for no reason I can see, except maybe because its been cooler lately. I was going to get some real Musa textilis but didnt have room or a need for them at this point.

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jeffreyp

ahh ok. Well I thought you were growing manilla hemp.

Gabe15

oh, haha, i guess im a dirty liar then.

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bigdog

I don't think that looks like AeAe. The pattern of the variegation is different, more like the canna stuttgart posted, but is obviously a musa.

Gabe15

This is a picture of my juvenile 'Ae Ae', again, you cant judge the mature plant by what it looks like as a baby. as im sure most of you will agree, they are near indentical.

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eggo

I'm sure we can all agree that paradisiaca is an outdated name.
But I am leaning toward BigDog on this one though for different reasons. Ae Ae does not appear to produce very transparent leaves, even all white pups produces leaves that are thick in nature. And if we look at Tyoro pics there appears to be sections of the white that are almost transparent. Secondly, Ae Ae always seem to produce leaves that are symmetrical and never heavily distorted like Tyoro pictures. I think this distortion of the leaves is usually attributed to the growth rate of the 2 different cells. It's also somewhat common on other heavily variegated white bananas also but Ae Ae seems to be free of this distortion even as a pup. ???