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Old 11-17-2014, 07:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It is immune to BSV.
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Looks just like the BSV on all my Mysores.
This is not Mysore.

Musa Pisang Ceylon is different cultivar ( within Mysore subgroup ). Designed specifically to be resistant to BSV.
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This is not Mysore.

Musa Pisang Ceylon is different cultivar. Designed specifically to be resistant to BSV.
Really?
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Really?
Yes, really.

The Improvement and Testing of Musa - Google Knjige

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Could be nitrogen deficiency, alkaloid mineral overload, water stress, or natural variation.
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Do you keep the plants or destroy them?
I keep them. Seems to be pretty minor and exclusive to the Mysores. I'd get PC or PK instead if I could get my hands on them.
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... I'd get PC or PK ...
?? We're talking about Pisang Ceylon here, which PC or PK are you referring to??
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It's a virus, go beyond just looking at the color and pattern of the variegata.

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Even if it isn't BSV it could still be CMV. If you have squash or dayflower you could easily get it.
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I do not know what causes variegation on my Musa Pisang Ceylon.

But it can not be BSV. The main purpose of ''Pisang Ceylon'' cultivar is to be resistant to BSV.

I do not have squashes or dayflowers in my garden. That garden where bananas are planted is for decoration only. Other plants there are mainly palms, aroids, yucca species, cycads, strelitzia species ect..

This is older photo of my upper garden ( plants are much bigger now ).



I actually like variegata look of my ''Pisang Ceylon''.

It grows fast, it is healthy, it looks great. I am pleased.
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Old 11-18-2014, 11:04 AM   #32 (permalink)
 
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Mine produces pups on a regular basis. I don't have any leaf variegation though. The diameter near the base is 6" and the pstem is around 6'.
Mine also has very thick base. It is hard to capture that on photos, on photos everything looks smaller.

Mine only has one pup so far ( I hope for more ). I really like the look of ''Pisang Ceylon'' ( very colorful variety ).

My favorite musa variety of all I have.

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It's a beautiful garden.
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?? We're talking about Pisang Ceylon here, which PC or PK are you referring to??
I meant Pisang Ceylon and Klotek, which I thought were both supposed to be BSV free and nearly the same at Mysore.
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Even if it isn't BSV it could still be CMV. If you have squash or dayflower you could easily get it.
I would suspect CMV, but there's a high demand for both of those viruses in the hobby market. Many hobbyists really enjoy the variegata look and will frequently pay over $100 on eBay, to add either infection to their collection.
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This is not Mysore.

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Who is the designer? It does not come with BSV but I am wondering if you can still catch it?
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Who is the designer? It does not come with BSV but I am wondering if you can still catch it?
No, because it is resistant. It is immune to the BSV.

Plan was to replace all Musa Mysore with Musa Pisang Ceylon.
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No, because it is resistant. It is immune to the BSV.

Plan was to replace all Musa Mysore with Musa Pisang Ceylon.
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Resistant does not equal immune.
It is the same.
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