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PR-Giants 11-19-2022 10:03 AM

Musa Nono
 
Bought a fully rooted Musa Nono and it certainly had less roots than expected.


blownz281 11-19-2022 10:37 AM

Re: Musa Nono
 
Surprised it looks good for a tiny root system. Curious to see how it grows for you.

beam2050 11-19-2022 04:38 PM

Re: Musa Nono
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blownz281 (Post 351025)
Surprised it looks good for a tiny root system. Curious to see how it grows for you.

i am wondering what your planting it in?

PR-Giants 11-20-2022 07:50 AM

Re: Musa Nono
 
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Originally Posted by beam2050 (Post 351028)
i am wondering what your planting in?

I was expecting it to have roots and if it did I would have planted it in CCS.

This is the first tissue culture plantlet I've received that a third party did the transition from agar to a non-agar substrate. Normally a plantlet in agar is shipped in a little bag or test tube with an abundance of roots and the grower simply needs to rinse off the agar and acclimate a decent amount off the roots to have success.

Trusting the transition to a third party with their definition of "fully rooted" doesn't appear to have been a good decision on my part.

The photo below is of a tissue culture plantlet from USDA TARS that came in a little bag of agar. It was planted in CCS and quickly acclimated to full sun before the pseudostem reached the height of 3 quarters. The advantages of acclimating to full sun quickly is to avoid growing a long thin pseudostem that will fold in the slightest breeze and obviously it will grow faster with more sunlight.


PR-Giants 11-20-2022 07:56 AM

Re: Musa Nono
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blownz281 (Post 351025)
Surprised it looks good for a tiny root system. Curious to see how it grows for you.

I'm guessing it has survived in a high humidity environment.

blownz281 11-20-2022 08:02 AM

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Sounds about right and never saw one growing in moss either. Pretty sure I have never bought any type of plant growing in it. But it does hold moisture so that would explain it’s growing conditions as you suggested.

texasmusa 11-23-2022 03:11 PM

Re: Musa Nono
 
How exciting! Was this also from Lydia? I purchased one and it came with few roots in spaghnum moss, I quickly moved it to Fluval.

Kingt82 12-23-2022 08:29 PM

Re: Musa Nono
 
Any updates?

mchris752 05-28-2023 01:44 PM

Re: Musa Nono
 
Hows it looking now?

PR-Giants 05-28-2023 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mchris752 (Post 352912)
Hows it looking now?

Good.

How's your Florida and variegated Dwarf Namwa looking?

If they're looking good you should consider getting a variegated non Dwarf Namwa. The yellow variegation with these types are much brighter.

mchris752 05-28-2023 04:50 PM

Re: Musa Nono
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 352913)
Good.

How's your Florida and variegated Dwarf Namwa looking?

If they're looking good you should consider getting a variegated non Dwarf Namwa. The yellow variegation with these types are much brighter.

Both doing fantastic so far. The dwarf :bananas_bwas mad as soon as i potted it and leaves dropped. I cut back all the leaves. Have one new one and another on the way. The florida is growing even faster. You have variegated non Dwarf Namwa available?

mchris752 05-28-2023 05:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 352913)
How's your Florida and variegated Dwarf Namwa looking?



I like to get them established in pots before putting in the ground. I added burlap to the plastic pot because they just get baked in the az sun. Ill probably wait till sept to put in the ground once the 115 summer weather is gone. I did a test with a couple pots, one burlap one not. The unburlaped pot got to 132 degrees by 9am and the one i had stapled burlap to was only 90, huge diff. Have it mostly in shade for now. Ill put it out in full sun in early mornings on my days off for a couple hrs and move it back to mostly shaded area. My other bananas are shaded by 11am. Microclimate is key here in the desert. The florida I put outside in am as for a couple hrs but its mostly kept inside for now on a heat mat with grow lights. I wonder if a grow bag may be better then nursery pots.



The florida seems to love the pon, roots growing like crazy. The 2nd new leaf I got was smaller than the others, but 3rd was normal size. Guessing plant stress maybe, its growing well though.


PR-Giants 05-31-2023 08:03 PM

Re: Musa Nono
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mchris752 (Post 352918)
Both doing fantastic so far. The dwarf :bananas_bwas mad as soon as i potted it and leaves dropped. I cut back all the leaves. Have one new one and another on the way. The florida is growing even faster. You have variegated non Dwarf Namwa available?

I'll PM you a pic when I find a nice one.

I'm glad both of them are doing great.

It seems like everyone is a pro this year.

Kingt82 06-01-2023 09:12 AM

Re: Musa Nono
 
I haven't tried this myself yet but maybe it can work for you. Paint the outside of your pot white. Or keep one side white and the other dark. That way you can face it depending on how much heat you want. Glad that pon is working out for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mchris752 (Post 352921)


I like to get them established in pots before putting in the ground. I added burlap to the plastic pot because they just get baked in the az sun. Ill probably wait till sept to put in the ground once the 115 summer weather is gone. I did a test with a couple pots, one burlap one not. The unburlaped pot got to 132 degrees by 9am and the one i had stapled burlap to was only 90, huge diff. Have it mostly in shade for now. Ill put it out in full sun in early mornings on my days off for a couple hrs and move it back to mostly shaded area. My other bananas are shaded by 11am. Microclimate is key here in the desert. The florida I put outside in am as for a couple hrs but its mostly kept inside for now on a heat mat with grow lights. I wonder if a grow bag may be better then nursery pots.



The florida seems to love the pon, roots growing like crazy. The 2nd new leaf I got was smaller than the others, but 3rd was normal size. Guessing plant stress maybe, its growing well though.



PR-Giants 06-01-2023 12:25 PM

Re: Musa Nono
 
Pot Skirts work great or Pot Kilts depending on it's pronouns. :ha::ha::ha:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingt82 (Post 352969)
I haven't tried this myself yet but maybe it can work for you. Paint the outside of your pot white. Or keep one side white and the other dark. That way you can face it depending on how much heat you want. Glad that pon is working out for you.


PR-Giants 06-24-2023 07:47 AM

Re: Musa Nono
 
Any new pics?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mchris752 (Post 352921)



mchris752 06-24-2023 08:03 AM

Re: Musa Nono
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 353182)
Any new pics?



Welcome back :lurk:

PR-Giants 06-24-2023 08:39 AM

Re: Musa Nono
 
That's beautiful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mchris752 (Post 353183)

Keep in mind how watering affects the variegation with Dwarf Namwa.

I get to observe this transformation with a field of Variegated Dwarf Namwa as we go from a dry period to a rainy period and vice versa.


Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 348743)


Knowing that the plant produces a leaf about every 7 days and numbering the leaf on the right as #1 and knowing that leaf #2 & #4 are on the opposite side of the pseudostem makes the middle leaf #3 and the left leaf #5.

It took 28 days to change the plant from visually all green to variegated.


mchris752 06-24-2023 08:52 AM

Re: Musa Nono
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 353185)
That's beautiful.



Keep in mind how watering affects the variegation with Dwarf Namwa.

I get to observe this transformation with a field of Variegated Dwarf Namwa as we go from a dry period to a rainy period and vice versa.

I have noticed the variegation seems to fade after a little bit. Thought maybe was sun issue so trying diff spots in my yard, it does seem happy. Didn't think about the watering.

Jeff zone 8 N.C. 06-24-2023 08:47 PM

Re: Musa Nono
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 353185)
That's beautiful.



Keep in mind how watering affects the variegation with Dwarf Namwa.

I get to observe this transformation with a field of Variegated Dwarf Namwa as we go from a dry period to a rainy period and vice versa.

That's very interesting that watering affects the variegation. Just to clarify.. is it more water that increases variegation or less water?


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