Musa Mysore self fertile?

BobbyC · 10-21-2012, 12:50 AM

Quick question? Is mysore self fertile or no? I purchased one from HD and there were two plants (even height) in the pot. Is there any reason for this? I thought maybe bc the plant was not self fertile or something. ALso any other tips or good word for this variety? Thanks

caliboy1994 · 10-21-2012, 03:47 AM

All edible bananas are self-fertile, including Mysore. It's a good variety that produces great tasting fruit, but it can have issues with banana streak virus. Since it's from a big box store, your plant might be mislabeled, can you post some pics so we can confirm it?

sunfish · 10-21-2012, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyC

Quick question? Is mysore self fertile or no? I purchased one from HD and there were two plants (even height) in the pot. Is there any reason for this? I thought maybe bc the plant was not self fertile or something. ALso any other tips or good word for this variety? Thanks

parthenocarpically - definition of parthenocarpically by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

venturabananas · 10-21-2012, 11:12 AM

Right. Technically, they are parthenocarpic and so fertility is not an issue because pollination is not required (and in most cases, difficult to achieve). This is true of all edible bananas.

There are probably two plants in the pot because one is a sucker (pup) off the other.

BobbyC · 10-21-2012, 03:47 PM

Ok, here are some pics. Man the fact that there is such a rampant mislabeling problem in this industry sucks. Just looking at the whole agristarts/goingbananas situation, you think they could be held liable somehow. That is false advertising. Anyways, before i start ranting. Here is (the 1st) pic of the mysore in question, after doing some reading I have an inkling it might not be and maybe SDC. I also posted next some pics of my "ice cream" i think i might have got duped as well. What do you think?

venturabananas · 10-21-2012, 03:56 PM

It's not Mysore. Might be Dwarf Cavendish. The other, hard to say at this point. Could be Ice Cream, but more likely is the Pisang Awak clone that is sold as Ice Cream. By all accounts, it's a better banana anyway, so be glad if it was mixed up.

caliboy1994 · 10-21-2012, 04:36 PM

Definitely not Mysore. Here's a picture of my Mysore. Note the red coloration.

BobbyC · 10-21-2012, 10:01 PM

Damn! Ive been bamboozled twice!!!! this sucks , how can agristarts and these other guys get away with this stuff. Seriously??? Ok, regroup... (lol), i think im going to dig up the DC and pot it or something, and then try to get a mysore or praying hands. Those are really cool. Does any one know where i can get a mysore or praying hands in SD? thanks and thanks for your banana mentorship my So Cal Bretheren: Caliboy and Ventura. I appreciate it!

caliboy1994 · 10-21-2012, 10:09 PM

Get a Pisang Ceylon or Pisang Klotek, they're the same thing as Mysore but without the BSV issues (that can spread to your other plants and cause trouble). All I can say is that you're fortunate to live in SD, Jon (pitangadiego) has probably the most extensive banana collection in the region, and he has all three of those varieties, I believe. Drop him a line and you should be able to get your hands on one. It says that he has Pisang Ceylon available right now, I would ask him about that. Here's his website:

Encanto Farms Nursery

sunfish · 10-21-2012, 10:21 PM

Get a Dwarf Namwah if your growing for fruit it will do better for you than Mysore

venturabananas · 10-21-2012, 11:03 PM

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Get a Dwarf Namwah if your growing for fruit it will do better for you than Mysore

That's true. It won't taste as good though. Get both. Well, really, get Pisang Klotek if you can. It is a bit shorter than Pisang Ceylon or Mysore, though not short, and has done great for Momoese in W. LA for years.

I don't think the banana misidentification by Agristarts and others is intentional. Just lack of knowledge and laziness -- lack of willingness to learn how to identify what you sell and poor quality control.

sunfish · 10-21-2012, 11:09 PM

Get K-M5 I heard they are the best

venturabananas · 10-21-2012, 11:16 PM

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Get K-M5 I heard they are the best

Me too, but I've never tried one and the one I got from you is a slow grower, so who knows when I'll ever try one.

I have tried 4 different bunches of Mysore types and they were all very good and 2 of them were better than any other banana I've had.

sunfish · 10-22-2012, 08:18 AM

The best I have tasted is my Could This Be A Mona Lisa.

venturabananas · 10-22-2012, 12:37 PM

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The best I have tasted is my "Could This Be A Mona Lisa".

That is a good one, based on the fruits you gave me from that one to try. The pup I got from you from that plant is looking like it is close to flowering. Given how slowly bananas ripen in my yard, that might mean I'll get to taste these in a year or so!

For the rest of you who don't know what we're talking about with "Could This Be A Mona Lisa", the answer is no, it can't be, but we don't know what it is.

sunfish · 10-22-2012, 12:59 PM

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That is a good one, based on the fruits you gave me from that one to try. The pup I got from you from that plant is looking like it is close to flowering. Given how slowly bananas ripen in my yard, that might mean I'll get to taste these in a year or so!

For the rest of you who don't know what we're talking about with "Could This Be A Mona Lisa", the answer is no, it can't be, but we don't know what it is.

This one in my area had not problem holding fruit through winter

venturabananas · 10-22-2012, 01:12 PM

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This one in my area had not problem holding fruit through winter

That's good news. I hope that's the case for a lot of them I have because so many are blooming now or already have bunches that won't be ripe before winter. We'll see. Maybe it'll be a tale of tears come mid-winter.

Snookie · 10-22-2012, 07:00 PM

LOL Be cool my brother.....I currently have 18+ nanna plants and be damned if I know what any of them are:}

If I did know, which I did a few months ago, I forgot lol

It's all good in the neighborhood.

Peace B with U

Snookie

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