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Bananers 02-06-2009 01:49 AM

Musa Manzano
 
Hi,
I just received a Musa Manzano pup(thank You Fernie). It's Huge :)
I was just wondering how deep I should plant it?
Right now I am planting it in a container that I will keep in the house until spring.
I'm planting it in compost.
Was also wondering when I should start to water it as well?

Eventually when it is big enough and ready to move outdoors I want to plant it in a Half Wine Barrel so that I can better protect it come winter.
Will it still pup/bare fruit?
Any input anybody has on this would be great.

Any help is always Welcome
Thank You
Les

harveyc 02-06-2009 11:56 AM

Re: Musa Manzano
 
You should plant the pup at the same depth as it was when it was dug from the ground when Fernie separated it. Sometimes it's harder to tell than others, but the psuedostem should be lighter where it was beneath the soil.

Assuming you moistened the compost before you planted it, you often don't need to water again until it shows some growth, especially since you didn't use perlite. Using perlite helps avoid overly wet soil which is especially important for a plant that is developing roots and not growing much. Depending on how warm and dry your home is, you can probably get by with checking the soil's moisture in a couple of weeks and give a small amount of water if it is a little dry. Until it's growing vigorously, it won't need much water.

Many pups are killed by over-watering so just be careful of keeping the soil too wet. You don't want it fully saturated.

Good luck!

xavierdlc61887 02-06-2009 08:09 PM

Re: Musa Manzano
 
????i sent u a pm this morning did u get it

Bananers 02-07-2009 01:27 AM

Re: Musa Manzano
 
Hi Fernie,
Yes I got your PM and followed your instruction. The plant is now resting comfortably(I hope).
I sent a PM right back to you,as well.

Hi harveyc,
Thanks for the reply.
I got the pup planted and am now waiting for signs of growth.

Can this get any more exciting :)

I still have another few months before I will even think about placing this outside so have enough time to research the idea of planting it in a half wine barrel.

Thank You
Les

harveyc 02-07-2009 02:42 AM

Re: Musa Manzano
 
You're welcome, Les. Yes, it gets more exciting when you see a flag leaf! :D

xavierdlc61887 02-07-2009 04:57 PM

Re: Musa Manzano
 
heres the mother that started it all :P well your pup atleast this is one of many manzanos out there :P


Jack Daw 02-08-2009 01:35 PM

Re: Musa Manzano
 
Just to make sure, Musa 'Manzano' is also known as Musa:

Monzano, Manzana, Silk, Silk Fig, Pome, Hawaiian, Brazillian, Pisang Rastali, Maca, Sugar

Is that right?

xavierdlc61887 02-08-2009 02:39 PM

Re: Musa Manzano
 
i dont know....but like ive read GABE say.... everybody has thier own way of calling a certain type of banana....for instance the blue java is also called ice cream :D

Jack Daw 02-08-2009 02:52 PM

Re: Musa Manzano
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xavierdlc61887 (Post 63490)
Omg.....i Just Looked At Some Sites And Saw What A Manzano Fruit Looks Like...im A Victim To False Id Plant......people That I Have Sold To Im Am Very Sorry.....can Anyone Tell Me What It Is??? Looks More Like A Orinoco Than Manzano?? or is it too early to tell???

Send us a picture of fruit, not something tiny hanging on a tree in a shade, will ya :lurk:

xavierdlc61887 02-08-2009 03:17 PM

Re: Musa Manzano
 
sorry it is a manzano haha i really thought it wasnt since i saw some pics online but kept looking and it is...the male flower is the same and the immature fruit too...as for another picture i need to call dad for a picture he is the one that sends it to me because i dont live with them anymore

Jack Daw 02-08-2009 03:22 PM

Re: Musa Manzano
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xavierdlc61887 (Post 63493)
sorry it is a manzano haha i really thought it wasnt since i saw some pics online but kept looking and it is...the male flower is the same and the immature fruit too...as for another picture i need to call dad for a picture he is the one that sends it to me because i dont live with them anymore

OK, so here's somethin' I found to Musa 'Apple' (Musa 'Manzano'):



and something riper here:


xavierdlc61887 02-08-2009 03:30 PM

Re: Musa Manzano
 

Gabe15 02-08-2009 07:05 PM

Re: Musa Manzano
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Daw (Post 63477)
Just to make sure, Musa 'Manzano' is also known as Musa:

Monzano, Manzana, Silk, Silk Fig, Pome, Hawaiian, Brazillian, Pisang Rastali, Maca, Sugar

Is that right?

In Hawai'i, what is known as 'Brazilian' (Pome subgroup Group of AAB) on the mainland is what is called 'Apple' in these islands. What is known as 'Apple' or 'Manzano' (Silk subgroup of AAB) on the mainland is called 'True Apple' (and sometimes 'Ladyfinger') here.

Common names for varieties of "true" 'Apple' are 'Manzano', 'Silk', 'Silk Fig', 'Amorosa', 'Pisang Rastali'....of course there are more too

Common names for varieties of 'Brazilian' ('Hawaiian Apple', including 'Dwarf Brazilian) are 'Pome', 'Prata', 'Prata Ana', 'Prata Santa Catarina' and sometimes 'Ladyfinger' plus more. 'Ladyfinger' is generally a poor name to call any banana because it is applied rather loosely to a variety of different cultivars.

That photo of the fruiting plant looks like 'Orinoco' to me as well, which would be synonymous to none of the above unfortunately. The photos of the fruit bunch look like they could be 'Manzano', but picked much to early and are underdeveloped.

xavierdlc61887 02-08-2009 07:27 PM

Re: Musa Manzano
 
dang i got owned :( i got a orinoco stead of a manzano.....i hate people that mis id it cause now i sold like 4-5 plants here on the org and they got orinocos and not manzanos like i had said :( its sad and everyone that i sold to i am sorry guys a million times


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