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Re: Musa Ice Cream Blue Java grow and taste report
So the banana peel & sap must contain an alkaline chemical that causes the blue color and likely the tart taste of the ripe fruit.
Here is an interesting article about ripe bananas glow blue under Black light. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/sci...ripe-ones.html |
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Tart would be due to acid. Blue pigment could be due to many things.
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I'm indebted to meizzwang for guiding me through how to post pics on here.
These are some old pics of what I've always thought to be my glaucous free Blue Java's. Hopefully I might now get a proper ident. Sorry about the bell, I remove them asap. [IMG] [/IMG]
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Re: Musa Ice Cream Blue Java grow and taste report
Right on growing and taste report of the “real deal” Blue Java/IceCream banana. I agree on everything Mike reported.
I personally had some really good Blue Java bananas which filled in and ripened during the summer month, while I had some crappy ones which were not worth the water spent on growing them during the winter months. The good ones tasted best during a very short time frame after harvest. A few black spots on the skin were needed for a pleasant sweetness. Harvested and eaten too early they will taste starchy, too late they are mushy. |
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Here's the real deal Musa Ice Cream aka Blue Java at peak ripeness. Notice how difficult it is to peel the banana at this stage:
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Does anyone know how this type of fruit is typically used? To me it has always been more of a novelty than any true quality. I assume it is a boiling or frying type but have never seen it used or talked about from its original use elsewhere. Often appears as though being adapted to eating ripe and yellow bananas has us trying to alter the use from cooking types to our own tastes. Would be interested to know more of the ethnic use.
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I was told by a man that bought a Blue Java plant from me that in Hawaii they are served sliced up. The story he told me was that his wife and him were on their honeymoon. They were enjoying, what was sold to them as an authentic Hawaiian feast. For desert the guest were served plates of Blue Java bananas sliced. He said they were the most incredible bananas he had ever had.
I can tell you that grown here in coastal Southern California they are decent. But I am close to the coast so I don't get a lot of heat. During summer when it is 80 degrees at my house it is 85 degrees only two more miles inland. And 5-10 miles further inland it is 90 degrees plus. In my mind this variety needs lots of heat when it is maturing on the plant. The only problem with my theory is that then the growers in Florida should all be raving about this variety and most of them don't. Bill |
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I ate the true blue java on an island off Taiwan and they tasted great. The locals ate them ripe and cooked them as plantains when green. As a plantain they were ok, but as a ripe fruit they were delicious. No issues with the skin sticking to the flesh. They were as good as FHIA-01 but with a soft fluffy texture, very unique. They were pleasantly sweet/tart in a good balance. They were harvested late summer in the wet tropics though so I suspect that the heat produced more sugar content in the fruit than yours. I have heard New Zealand banana growers say that the blue java produces poor quality fruit there due to there cool climate. It may be the same where you are?
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11-26-2018, 05:53 PM | #33 (permalink) |
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without a doubt, environment and when the fruit is picked does play an enormous role on flavor: I've tried a Texas grown Valencia orange and compared it to my california home grown Valencia, and they tasted like two completely different varieties! The homegrown valencia was better only because it was fresher: had the texas one been tasted the day of picking, it probably would have been perceived as higher quality because of the higher sugar to acid ratio.
Personal opinion also plays a huge role, so ratings can be taken with a grain of salt, you'll want to judge a variety by the descriptions. The second bunch of blue java that I harvested had both better texture and higher perceivable sugar content at peak ripeness. But it still came nowhere close to a well grown american goldfinger. I don't doubt that Taiwan (tropical climate) grown blue java tastes better than the best blue java grown in Northern California(mediterranean climate). However, I wonder if the opposite is true for goldfinger: I've heard that commercial producers in Australia deem goldfinger unsuitable for mass production due to its unfavorable ratings by consumers. On the other hand, when grown in our cool, mediterranean California climate, multiple growers have rated it as being one of the best tasting varieties. Last edited by meizzwang : 11-26-2018 at 06:00 PM. |
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Re: Musa Ice Cream Blue Java grow and taste report
Thanks for this post! I'm in the SF Bay Area (San Leandro), and bought my first banana plant (theoretically, a Blue Java) from Green Earth Co., after reading this thread I'm not sure what I have!
(Or if it would be worth eating?) I have no idea if it's warm enough at my house to ever have this tree fruit (I'm in zone 9B), so if anyone here has any better ideas for a banana plant that could produce fruit for me, I'm all ears! I admit to being seduced by the blue color and the 'novelty' factor, I've never grown banana plants before. But my little dude seems healthy, he's making new leaves and is about 12" tall stem-wise now. He's indoors in a pot in my sunroom (bright indirect sun) but I carry him outside for a few hours of morning sun every day. Pampered plant! |
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Re: Musa Ice Cream Blue Java grow and taste report
Awesome taste report! Great job!
I see so much difference in tastings of blue java! Mine also never stick to the peel! My peel also seems thicker and more “bluggoe” like! I have your exact clone of blue java now and hope to taste it soon! Although I’m sure they are synonymous. Mine are always a mild sweet flavor! Some may say a “bland” sweet. I love them! I love namwa also! It’s a toss up comparing them! Namwa overall wins! Namwa is one of my top producers! Can’t go wrong with namwa! I have even questioned if I was crazy and sent fruit to friends who like them more than me! Haha. I too am thinking it may be a climate issue? I have colder winters but rest of the year it is HOT!! On the west cost the temp swings aren’t as big. Not as hot and humid? I always recommend people grow namwa before blue java and over blue java! Blue java is more of a rare collectors plant. I can name at least 5 and maybe 10 varieties that are better than blue java in taste! And finally neither blue java nor namwa taste like vanilla or ice cream! They can be creamy maybe but I hate the word “ice cream banana” shouldn’t even be used! The closest thing to a vanilla tasting banana is praying hands!
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What kind of banana do you you think IV organics has?
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