musa ice cream

redtail_2006 · 06-07-2007, 10:45 AM

Hi guys my musa ice creams been in ground for about 2 months now and has not grown at all.Nore has it died at all.Is this normal? Are thay really that slow growing? thanks..daz

pitangadiego · 06-07-2007, 12:59 PM

How big is it, what are the growing conditions? When and where did it come from?

tlturbo · 06-07-2007, 01:05 PM

I brought one pup about 4 feet tall to this house 2 years ago March. It just put out a flower 2 weeks ago from the tallest stem, has 2 other tall stems and about 8 stagered size pups. NOT a slow grower for me. BUT sometimes it takes a while for a single new plant to get going. Then again, this is S Florida too.

Terry

MediaHound · 06-07-2007, 01:36 PM

Sword pup or umbrella pup or TC?

redtail_2006 · 06-07-2007, 01:51 PM

Bought of ebay.Growing in a border in good compost.Its currently about 6 inches and four leaves as i said its looked like this for ages now..daz

funsocaltiger · 06-07-2007, 03:40 PM

I recently bought a couple Ice Creams from GreenEarth. They came only about 6" tall but they've put out a new leaf every 5-7 days and doubled in size in a few weeks. If yours isn't growing at all, something is wrong.

pitangadiego · 06-07-2007, 11:29 PM

Doesn't sound good. I would have kept it in a 2 gallon pot till it was much bigger. Easier to manage and do the TLC thing.

redtail_2006 · 06-08-2007, 11:12 AM

Thanks guys .I think your right i put it out to early.This is my first year trying to grow bananas.I think its a case of impationce i think.,

Mark Hall · 06-08-2007, 03:10 PM

Redtail was the plant well rooted when you got it ? I may have just been severed from a parent and not had a chance to put out a lot of root.

It may just be sulking. Give it a couple of weeks with feed and water and see how it goes.

tlturbo · 06-09-2007, 07:21 AM

Occasionally I have planted out a small pup that was severed from the corm and it just sat there. After building up some energy, it put out a pup which started growing great and then the original one died off. This has happened more that once. So maybe yours is doing that?

If it is still green and living, IT'S DOING SOMETHING DOWN THERE. Hang tight.

Terry

redtail_2006 · 06-12-2007, 05:14 AM

Hi guys thanks for the advice.The plant was grown from seed its just started to grow a new leaf however its still verry slowmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....daz

Marc · 06-12-2007, 06:26 AM

A true 'Ice Cream' is a clone and not from seed. I keep TC plants and corms in 5-7g pots until I plant them out usually in Spring ahead of the S FLA rainy season.

MediaHound · 06-12-2007, 09:05 AM

May I ask where you obtained the presumed Ice Cream banana seed?

In my post where I asked what it was when you obtained it, I specifically left 'seed' out for a reason, because as Marc stated, on this cultivar, seed is not an option.

http://www.bananas.org/wiki/Musa_Ice_Cream_(Blue_Java)

MediaHound · 06-12-2007, 09:06 AM

and oh yes, may we see a picture of the plant?

the flying dutchman · 06-12-2007, 09:08 AM

redtail_2006 · 06-13-2007, 01:16 AM

Hi yea ill tack a pic in a few mins.The reason i say from seed is cos its so small! im only assumming its from seed i may be wrong.Im verry new to growing nanas so please dont shoot me lol.Pic to follow..daz

redtail_2006 · 06-13-2007, 01:23 AM

Here is the little fellow he looks a bit battered from the hale s

torm we had

MediaHound · 06-13-2007, 09:32 PM

OK that could very well be Ice Cream, but it was a TC; not grown from seed.
It's probably putting it's energy into root growth. It looks great despite the cuts and bruises. Amending the soil with fresh organic matter or feed spikes etc probably wouldn't hurt.
Cheers

redtail_2006 · 06-14-2007, 01:07 AM

Thank you media for putting me right. i thought with it being so small it would be seed grown.Can you tell me mate whats feed spikes?

chong · 06-14-2007, 01:46 AM

Go to Home Depot or Walmart garden centers. Ask them about "Jobe's fruit tree spikes". They look like "wood spikes" that you drive in the ground for securing your tent. But they're made of some organic material that is driven into the ground a certain distance from the plant, where the moisture in the ground soaks into it releasing the nutrient from it.

Here are links that may be helpful:
http://www.walgreens.com/store/produ...&id=prod386469

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1335050

I would not recommend a blend where the Phosphorus is higher than the Nitrogen and Potassium components, e.g. the Tomato blend(8-24-8), etc. Request one with something like a 16-4-4 or 16-8-8 blend. I don't know if there a spike with a 12-8-16 blend, but that would be ideal.

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redtail_2006 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 101 BananaBucks : 45,197 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	musa ice cream Hi guys my musa ice creams been in ground for about 2 months now and has not grown at all.Nore has it died at all.Is this normal? Are thay really that slow growing? thanks..daz

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tlturbo WUTSA V8 tlturbo's Photo Gallery Location: Bokeelia, FL Find me on the map! Zone: 10 Name: Terry Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 365 BananaBucks : 108,390 Feedback: 3 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1 Times Was Thanked 87 Times in 51 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: musa ice cream I brought one pup about 4 feet tall to this house 2 years ago March. It just put out a flower 2 weeks ago from the tallest stem, has 2 other tall stems and about 8 stagered size pups. NOT a slow grower for me. BUT sometimes it takes a while for a single new plant to get going. Then again, this is S Florida too. Terry

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redtail_2006 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 101 BananaBucks : 45,197 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: musa ice cream Bought of ebay.Growing in a border in good compost.Its currently about 6 inches and four leaves as i said its looked like this for ages now..daz

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funsocaltiger Junior Member Location: SoCal Zone: 9b / 19 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 16 BananaBucks : 6,531 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 4 Times Was Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: musa ice cream I recently bought a couple Ice Creams from GreenEarth. They came only about 6" tall but they've put out a new leaf every 5-7 days and doubled in size in a few weeks. If yours isn't growing at all, something is wrong.

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pitangadiego Senior Member Location: San Diego, CA Find me on the map! Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,481 BananaBucks : 129,548 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 2 Times Was Thanked 2,706 Times in 923 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: musa ice cream Doesn't sound good. I would have kept it in a 2 gallon pot till it was much bigger. Easier to manage and do the TLC thing. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com We Be Bananas http://webebananas.com

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redtail_2006 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 101 BananaBucks : 45,197 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: musa ice cream Thanks guys .I think your right i put it out to early.This is my first year trying to grow bananas.I think its a case of impationce i think.,

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tlturbo WUTSA V8 tlturbo's Photo Gallery Location: Bokeelia, FL Find me on the map! Zone: 10 Name: Terry Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 365 BananaBucks : 108,390 Feedback: 3 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1 Times Was Thanked 87 Times in 51 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: musa ice cream Occasionally I have planted out a small pup that was severed from the corm and it just sat there. After building up some energy, it put out a pup which started growing great and then the original one died off. This has happened more that once. So maybe yours is doing that? If it is still green and living, IT'S DOING SOMETHING DOWN THERE. Hang tight. Terry

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redtail_2006 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 101 BananaBucks : 45,197 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: musa ice cream Hi guys thanks for the advice.The plant was grown from seed its just started to grow a new leaf however its still verry slowmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....daz

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Marc Marc's Photo Gallery Location: Naples, Florida Find me on the map! Zone: 10 a Name: Marc Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 204 BananaBucks : 42,084 Feedback: 2 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1 Times Was Thanked 17 Times in 7 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: musa ice cream A true 'Ice Cream' is a clone and not from seed. I keep TC plants and corms in 5-7g pots until I plant them out usually in Spring ahead of the S FLA rainy season. __________________ east of Naples, FL zone 10a warm humid sub tropical

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MediaHound Tally-Man MediaHound's Photo Gallery Location: Florida Find me on the map! Zone: 10 Name: Jarred Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,260 BananaBucks : 1,989,300 Feedback: 66 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,855 Times Was Thanked 5,078 Times in 1,352 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,086 Times	Re: musa ice cream May I ask where you obtained the presumed Ice Cream banana seed? In my post where I asked what it was when you obtained it, I specifically left 'seed' out for a reason, because as Marc stated, on this cultivar, seed is not an option. http://www.bananas.org/wiki/Musa_Ice_Cream_(Blue_Java) __________________ Apologies in advance if I am slow to reply to your PM. I suggest posting in the forums for support if you need something urgent.

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MediaHound Tally-Man MediaHound's Photo Gallery Location: Florida Find me on the map! Zone: 10 Name: Jarred Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,260 BananaBucks : 1,989,300 Feedback: 66 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,855 Times Was Thanked 5,078 Times in 1,352 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,086 Times	Re: musa ice cream and oh yes, may we see a picture of the plant? __________________ Apologies in advance if I am slow to reply to your PM. I suggest posting in the forums for support if you need something urgent.

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redtail_2006 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 101 BananaBucks : 45,197 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: musa ice cream Hi yea ill tack a pic in a few mins.The reason i say from seed is cos its so small! im only assumming its from seed i may be wrong.Im verry new to growing nanas so please dont shoot me lol.Pic to follow..daz

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redtail_2006 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 101 BananaBucks : 45,197 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: musa ice cream Here is the little fellow he looks a bit battered from the hale storm we had

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MediaHound Tally-Man MediaHound's Photo Gallery Location: Florida Find me on the map! Zone: 10 Name: Jarred Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,260 BananaBucks : 1,989,300 Feedback: 66 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,855 Times Was Thanked 5,078 Times in 1,352 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,086 Times	Re: musa ice cream OK that could very well be Ice Cream, but it was a TC; not grown from seed. It's probably putting it's energy into root growth. It looks great despite the cuts and bruises. Amending the soil with fresh organic matter or feed spikes etc probably wouldn't hurt. Cheers __________________ Apologies in advance if I am slow to reply to your PM. I suggest posting in the forums for support if you need something urgent.

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redtail_2006 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 101 BananaBucks : 45,197 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: musa ice cream Thank you media for putting me right. i thought with it being so small it would be seed grown.Can you tell me mate whats feed spikes?

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chong Senior Member chong's Photo Gallery Location: Seattle, WA Find me on the map! Zone: 8-9 Name: Chong Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,851 BananaBucks : 97,053 Feedback: 6 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1,309 Times Was Thanked 1,701 Times in 758 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 991 Times	Re: musa ice cream Go to Home Depot or Walmart garden centers. Ask them about "Jobe's fruit tree spikes". They look like "wood spikes" that you drive in the ground for securing your tent. But they're made of some organic material that is driven into the ground a certain distance from the plant, where the moisture in the ground soaks into it releasing the nutrient from it. Here are links that may be helpful: http://www.walgreens.com/store/produ...&id=prod386469 http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1335050 I would not recommend a blend where the Phosphorus is higher than the Nitrogen and Potassium components, e.g. the Tomato blend(8-24-8), etc. Request one with something like a 16-4-4 or 16-8-8 blend. I don't know if there a spike with a 12-8-16 blend, but that would be ideal.

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