Musa Chini Champa

Greenie · 09-03-2020, 10:40 PM

I have a photo of when I imported this variety many ,many years ago from India with a phyto certificate but I don't have the time to look for it now.
After my research was done, I knew this would be a great one!
This is from a source ...

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Product Description
This is a distinctive banana that is a favourite among banana lovers for it''s very sweet tasting fruit combined with a fresh "banana" aroma. The plants are not very large when grown in the relatively cool climate of Kalimpong. The stems are deep red brown when mature and new shoots show distinct red colouration. New leaves have a red tinge on the back of the leaves. Midribs of leaves are dull red. In the hot areas of West Bengal this variety is known as "Champa-Kala" and the plants grow taller and are more robust and each inflorescence produces more hands of fruit.In the hills, the name "Chini-champa" originates from "chini = sugar" and "champa=fragrance of magnolia flowers".

Anyways,I gave mine to Brian aka"Nanaman" when I stopped growing bananas at the time and he grew the heck out of it and still does. One of his favorites as per taste,color, and fruit bunch that he has kept.So,earlier this year around January I knew I was ready to give it a shot and enjoy it for myself and actually get to experience this banana from India!

Here is an update as of today...

(Brought this home from Nanaman's Chini mat) It was winter and they were small ...TRUST THE CORM!!!!!!!
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IMG_1434 by Rene, on Flickr[/IMG]
Finally in the ground around early March or May
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updated today
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Valor_X · 09-04-2020, 05:13 AM

Amazing growth in just under a year!!

I wonder if this is the same as the one a grower from Puerto Rico was referring to as 'Chumpo'
But that one was described as being more big plantain-like bananas

Johnsk9 · 09-04-2020, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Valor_X

Amazing growth in just under a year!!

I wonder if this is the same as the one a grower from Puerto Rico was referring to as 'Chumpo'
But that one was described as being more big plantain-like bananas

look at the picture they post Chumpo looks like a Orinoco. The names maybe different in other countries

Valor_X · 09-04-2020, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnsk9

look at the picture they post Chumpo looks like a Orinoco. The names maybe different in other countries

Yeah that was the same picture I saw as well, it does look like Orinoco but it doesn't seem right. Maybe its just me but these look fatter and rounder.

In any case, I just looked up Chini Champa on the Wiki and it doesn't match the description of this one at all so its not the same.

The wiki doesn't have any pics of the fruit yet, OP you should post some when it fruits!

Johnsk9 · 09-04-2020, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Valor_X

Yeah that was the same picture I saw as well, it does look like Orinoco but it doesn't seem right. Maybe its just me but these look fatter and rounder.

In any case, I just looked up Chini Champa on the Wiki and it doesn't match the description of this one at all so its not the same.

The wiki doesn't have any pics of the fruit yet, OP you should post some when it fruits!

Many of the people there(P R)have plants from Germplasm Repository in Puerto Rico, which often has or gives Mislabled plants out.Many people here buy plants from other countries to find out they have some thing different then they wanted or paid for,You would do much better buying from growers here in the USA

Greenie · 09-04-2020, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Valor_X

In any case, I just looked up Chini Champa on the Wiki and it doesn't match the description of this one at all so its not the same.

The wiki doesn't have any pics of the fruit yet, OP you should post some when it fruits!

I took the time to upload a few pictures of our Chini Champa, hope this helps....

found the picture ! upon arrival from India. At this point I was like...ohhh no lol!!!
I thought to myself.....Theres no way I can trust this corm
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Musa Chini Champa (grown in Nanaman's yard)
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Chini Champa flower and fruit
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Chini Champa fruit bunch
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Chini Champa fruit
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and here is Gabes interpretation

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Originally Posted by Gabe15

You are correct in that 'Chini Champa' is AB, it is in the Ney Poovan group and of which some are called 'Lady Finger', the problem arises when you try to say what a 'Lady Finger' banana is. This is a name that is loosely applied to many different varieties, there really is no solid 'Lady Finger' variety, pretty much any small sweet banana is called 'Lady Finger' somewhere or another. Calling a banana a lady finger is therefore more to describe the fruit in most cases, not the name of a specific variety.

hopes this helps

smeash · 09-04-2020, 01:45 PM

Looks like a winner Greenie! Have you tasted the fruit from nanamans plants?

Greenie · 09-04-2020, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by smeash

Looks like a winner Greenie! Have you tasted the fruit from nanamans plants?

Yes,I did but it was a few years ago. I do remember it was excellent!

here is Namaman's take

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Originally Posted by NANAMAN

I have grown all three , and Manzano has been my favorite, not only of these three varieties, but out of the 50+ varieties I've grown, except for Chini Champa!

The Manzano and Chini Champa are my two favorites, and it would be hard to pick which one I like the best.

Thats all im going to say lol!

Backyard Banana Joe · 09-04-2020, 04:53 PM

Looking great greenie! Thanks for the photos!

Valor_X · 09-04-2020, 05:27 PM

They gave you a nearly perfectly round corm! love it XD
And yeah thanks for all the pictures!!!

You should look to see if you can add them to the Wiki page

Greenie · 10-05-2020, 02:45 PM

https://flic.kr/p/2jPQVPD

Backyard Banana Joe · 10-05-2020, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Greenie

http://https://flic.kr/p/2jPQVPD

What the heck are you doing to those? They look great! Gained almost a foot! Lol

Greenie · 10-05-2020, 03:33 PM

wstrickland1 · 10-05-2020, 04:42 PM

Simply incredible. Winter in Charleston is such a tease. Just cold enough to screw me up.

Those are really gorgeous.

Greenie · 10-05-2020, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wstrickland1

Simply incredible. Winter in Charleston is such a tease. Just cold enough to screw me up.

Those are really gorgeous.

Thanks

...if anyone can upload the pic I would appreciate it, I’m stuck on a phone for now and the mobile flicker won’t let me.

Backyard Banana Joe · 10-06-2020, 01:38 PM

Here you go

Greenie · 10-06-2020, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Backyard Banana Joe

Here you go

Thanks BBJ!

On the right is my Manzano that is finally growing and on the top and left of the CC in a tiny Ae Ae lol!

LeoBuss · 10-06-2020, 03:05 PM

Does anyone have a source for these?

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