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Old 06-10-2010, 03:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Last week I noticed that the last 3 leaves on my largest Orinoco are progressively getting smaller. This morning a new leaf unfurled continuing the trend and making it four in a row. The last normal sized leaf measured 63" followed by one measuring 58", 54", 49" and this mornings leaf was 44". All rounded numbers of course.

I read the leaf before the flag thread and the flag of the flag of the... post, but there seemed to be a drastic reduction of leaf size not this slow progression. Has anyone noticed a longer slower reduction in leaf size prior to flowering? Or is this in reaction to some environmental factor?

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Old 06-10-2010, 05:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Did you recently transplant? Could it be rootbound if potted? Different soil?
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Did you recently transplant? Could it be rootbound if potted? Different soil?
Hi Patty,

It was potted over the winter and moved outside to its current location in the ground the first week of March. It lost all of its winter leaves to spring storms as it was out in the open height wise. I think I can rule out soil as I have several other Orinocos right near it and they are displaying normal sized leaves. It could be spending more energy developing roots, although you would think it would just send up less leaves instead of affecting the size. Hopefully someone will have some insight.

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Good Observation DaveE :^) The question is do you always walk around your yard with a tape measure on your hip? :^)
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I had the same "problem" with my Ice Cream and my Rajapuri after the winter (see: Smaller and thinner leave after winter) and I think it was a little suffering and recovering from winter. I had these two bananas outside in a pot on my balcony and had them covered only the coldest days when there was little freezing at night.
After the winter the leaves got smaller and then larger again. Now they're back to normal size and shape and everything is fine.
Maybe yours had a shock when you moved them outside and then showed these strange leaves. Just wait bit and they should get back to normal. I had about 3 - 6 "strange" leaves untill everything was normal.
And mine were not rootbound.
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If it's a really large sized one then it's probably getting ready to flower. If it's smaller, then you're just not making it happy anymore. Try playing some Jimmy Buffet to it...lol...
My ice cream did put out several progressively smaller leaves and then the flag and then the bloom.
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My Ice Cream and my Rajapuri are still small plants.
I received them last fall, so they shouldn't flower very soon, so it definitely can't be flag leaves.

I attached a quick pic of the Rajapuri taken with my phone. You can see the smaller and thinner leaves and - believe me - there have been bigger ones before:
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Thanks Bernd and Sandy!

The Orinoco I am writing about is well over 7' tall p-stem height.

This could be a transplant issue, but the transition went well with this plant. It didn't loose any leaves, no real obvious signs of shock and it has been 3.5 months now.

I guess as in the case of most banana questions we will have to wait and see. LOL

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Just a quick update.

The plant has continued the trend with each new leaf ending up about 4 inches shorter than the last. The last leaf to open is down to 34" and the height is still terminal.
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YAY Dave! Keep those pictures coming!!!


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Get that Dwarf Orinoco of yours going Amigo, so we can have a dwarf vs standard taste test.

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Congrats, Dave! I get fruit off of my Orinoco on a fairly regular basis. I don't know that I will this year due to our most recent winter, though I guess it's possible since my California Gold also flowered, but it didn't die back almost to the ground like the Orinoco did. Orinoco fruits taste pretty good in my opinion if you let them get fully ripe (they should yield a little when you squeeze them). They are pretty good for making tostones as well, though they won't be as large as if you'd bought a true plantain from the grocery stort. I haven't made any but I would assume that they would also make good banana chips if sliced thin or be good for dehydrating. I may try that next go-round.
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Congrats, Dave! I get fruit off of my Orinoco on a fairly regular basis. I don't know that I will this year due to our most recent winter, though I guess it's possible since my California Gold also flowered, but it didn't die back almost to the ground like the Orinoco did. Orinoco fruits taste pretty good in my opinion if you let them get fully ripe (they should yield a little when you squeeze them). They are pretty good for making tostones as well, though they won't be as large as if you'd bought a true plantain from the grocery stort. I haven't made any but I would assume that they would also make good banana chips if sliced thin or be good for dehydrating. I may try that next go-round.
Thanks Brent! I can't wait to read your opinion on the taste of your CG.

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