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Chance1945 07-24-2012 02:04 PM

Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
I still have several Gros Michel left for sale @ $7.00. I will soon need to move them into larger pots so this is last call for gros michel at this price. So let me know within the week.



Terry

Bananaman88 07-24-2012 03:19 PM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
If you are referring to Musella lasiocarpa when you write "Dw. Chinese Golden Lotus" there are several of us here growing that plant. They were once thought to be extinct in the wild (and could be for all I know) but I believe it is pretty well-established in the hobby.

RandyGHO 07-24-2012 05:12 PM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
Are these cold hardy at all Terry?

planetrj 07-24-2012 06:01 PM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
Hi Terry,
If I purchased 2, what would the shipping be to CA?

GreenFin 07-24-2012 07:18 PM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyGHO (Post 200895)
Are these cold hardy at all Terry?

GM are unfortunately one of the least cold hardy. Here's a chart that Richard posted a while back:

Variety USDA zone

Texas Star 7.0
Amistad 7.5
Carolina King 7.5
Golden Rhinohorn 7.5
1000 Fingers 8.0
Dwarf Orinoco 8.0
Orinoco 8.0
California Gold 8.5
Cardaba 8.5
Double 8.5
Dwarf Brazilian 8.5
Dwarf Puerto Rican 8.5
Ebun Musak 8.5
French Horn 8.5
Giant Plantain 8.5
Goldfinger 8.5
Gran Nain 8.5
High Color Mini 8.5
Ice Cream 8.5
Kalela 8.5
Lady Finger 8.5
Mahoi 8.5
Mauritius 8.5
Mona Lisa 8.5
Monkey Fingers 8.5
Mysore 8.5
Pisang Ceylon 8.5
Pitogo 8.5
Rajapuri 8.5
Saba 8.5
1780 hybrid 9.0
African Rhino Horn 9.0
Argentino 9.0
Belle 9.0
Brazilian 9.0
Dwarf Cavendish 9.0
Dwarf Namwa 9.0
Dwarf Thai 9.0
FHIA-18 9.0
FHIA-20 9.0
FHIA-21 Plantain 9.0
FHIA-23 9.0
Green Red 9.0
Hua Moa 9.0
Iholena 9.0
Kandrian 9.0
Misi Luki of Samoa 9.0
Pace 9.0
Popoulu kaia 9.0
Red Iholene 9.0
Red Jewel 9.0
Sweetheart 9.0
Tuu Gia 9.0
White Iholena 9.0
Williams Hybrid 9.0
Zan Moreno 9.0
Ae Ae 9.5
Dwarf French 9.5
Ele Ele 9.5
Enano Nautia 9.5
FHIA-17 9.5
Golden Beauty 9.5
Manzano 9.5
Namwa 9.5
Pisang Buai 9.5
Praying Hands 9.5
Sumatrana X Gran Nain 9.5
Super Plantain 9.5
Tall Red 9.5
Valery 9.5
Kaulau 10.0
Kofi 10.0
Pisang Klutuk 10.0
Cavendish (banana) 10.5
Cocos 11.0
Dwarf Gros Michel 11.0
Dwarf Red 11.0
Gros Michel 11.0
Jamaican Red 11.0
Kappa Pazham 11.0
Pisang Tandok 11.0
Rose 11.0
Karat 12.0
Kru 12.0
Latundan 12.0
Nino 12.0
Utafun 12.0

Darkman 07-24-2012 09:31 PM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
Alphabetical listing with zone hardiness (Richards list)

1000 Fingers 8.0
1780 hybrid 9.0
Ae Ae 9.5
African Rhino Horn 9.0
Amistad 7.5
Argentino 9.0
Belle 9.0
Brazilian 9.0
California Gold 8.5
Cardaba 8.5
Carolina King 7.5
Cavendish (banana) 10.5
Cocos 11.0
Double 8.5
Dwarf Brazilian 8.5
Dwarf Thai 9.0
Dwarf Gros Michel 11.0
Dwarf French 9.5
Dwarf Namwa 9.0
Dwarf Puerto Rican 8.5
Dwarf Red 11.0
Dwarf Orinoco 8.0
Dwarf Cavendish 9.0
Ebun Musak 8.5
Ele Ele 9.5
Enano Nautia 9.5
FHIA-17 9.5
FHIA-18 9.0
FHIA-20 9.0
FHIA-21 Plantain 9.0
FHIA-23 9.0
French Horn 8.5
Giant Plantain 8.5
Golden Beauty 9.5
Golden Rhinohorn 7.5
Goldfinger 8.5
Gran Nain 8.5
Green Red 9.0
Gros Michel 11.0
High Color Mini 8.5
Hua Moa 9.0
Ice Cream 8.5
Iholena 9.0
Jamaican Red 11.0
Kalela 8.5
Kandrian 9.0
Kappa Pazham 11.0
Karat 12.0
Kaulau 10.0
Kofi 10.0
Kru 12.0
Lady Finger 8.5
Latundan 12.0
Mahoi 8.5
Manzano 9.5
Mauritius 8.5
Misi Luki of Samoa 9.0
Mona Lisa 8.5
Monkey Fingers 8.5
Mysore 8.5
Namwa 9.5
Nino 12.0
Orinoco 8.0
Pace 9.0
Pisang Ceylon 8.5
Pisang Klutuk 10.0
Pisang Buai 9.5
Pisang Tandok 11.0
Pitogo 8.5
Popoulu kaia 9.0
Praying Hands 9.5
Rajapuri 8.5
Red Jewel 9.0
Red Iholene 9.0
Rose 11.0
Saba 8.5
Sumatrana X Gran Nain 9.5
Super Plantain 9.5
Sweetheart 9.0
Tall Red 9.5
Texas Star 7.0
Tuu Gia 9.0
Utafun 12.0
Valery 9.5
White Iholena 9.0
Williams Hybrid 9.0
Zan Moreno 9.0

Chance1945 07-24-2012 09:38 PM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
Thanks for posting that list. Take it with a grain of salt though. The namwa is listed at 9.5 and I live a full zone north and it does well here and has done so for many years.

RandyGHO 07-25-2012 06:18 AM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
Thanks for posting the list. Its relative location on the list suggest I had better pass on this one. It would be interesting to have a taste of the past.

Darkman 07-25-2012 12:27 PM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chance1945 (Post 200914)
Thanks for posting that list. Take it with a grain of salt though. The namwa is listed at 9.5 and I live a full zone north and it does well here and has done so for many years.

Do you have the Tall or Dwarf Namwah and has it reliably fruited for you?

How much protection are you having to give the Gros Michael?

I live South of I-110 in Pensacola. Our conditions should be very similiar. Do you think it would prosper and do well here? If it will and if you make it to Bo's I'd take three of them if you could bring them over.

dkf85281 07-25-2012 09:37 PM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
Does anyone know how long the branches of a mature GM grow? i'd like to know how far to plant it from the property line of my yard.

thanks!

Dean

travaniaj 07-26-2012 05:04 AM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chance1945 (Post 200914)
Thanks for posting that list. Take it with a grain of salt though. The namwa is listed at 9.5 and I live a full zone north and it does well here and has done so for many years.

Wow! I didn't know you had sooo many bananas. And that's a good thing because every year I tell myself I'm not going to buy any more plants and that never works. I don't have enough time to take care of the ones I have already.

Jose263 08-22-2012 12:21 AM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
Terry - Do you still have Gros Michel pups?
Is it the original commercial nana that Panama disease wipe out in 1950s?
How high do they grow? if 10 ft or less - I'm interested if still available. We re similar zones - I'm in Biloxi, MS and will drive over for pickup.
Thanks,
TJ

TommyMacLuckie 08-25-2012 10:31 PM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
I was going to plant two in the ground this month but upon viewing the list I think I will not bother.

Jose263 08-25-2012 11:19 PM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
would love to have Gros Michael -The list says zone 11. Chance's profile says he is just south of Mobile - if it survives there then there should be hope along the Gulf coast and S Lousiana. Zone 8 or 9.
So, Chance- how does Gros Michael fair in the winter on the Bayou? :drum:
Thanks
Jose

amantedelenguaje 08-26-2012 06:46 AM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
Jose263, it is my understanding that Terry (a.k.a. Chance1945) purchased some trays of tissue-cultured Gros Michel plants at the request of some of us here at Bananas.org. People like me did not want nor could we afford a whole tray of TC plants from Agristarts. Once Terry obtained the plants, he then resold them to us here at Bananas.org. My point is that Terry may not be growing Gros Michel to the point where the pseudostem reaches its full height and produces bananas. We'll see.

andy17 08-26-2012 07:30 AM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkman (Post 200934)
Do you have the Tall or Dwarf Namwah and has it reliably fruited for you?

How much protection are you having to give the Gros Michael?

I live South of I-110 in Pensacola. Our conditions should be very similiar. Do you think it would prosper and do well here? If it will and if you make it to Bo's I'd take three of them if you could bring them over.

Hi Darkman,
So you're able to grow a namwah type outdoors successfully in zone 8b? I have an Ice Cream that is a tall namwah type that I would love to plant in the ground. I live in zone 8a/8b.

Jose263 08-26-2012 10:43 AM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
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amantedelenguaje - thanks for the background - how tall with gros michael get -

andy17 - I'm in Biloxi - zone 8 - here's Namwah that bloomed in June also 3 orinico blooms this year.- I did winterize with a wire cage with leaves and plastic exterior with 7 foot pstem - but i suspect it would have done well anyway last winter..

Darkman has better results than me...
Looks like I may have to harvest early - Isaac is headed our way..

Thanks
Jose

amantedelenguaje 08-26-2012 11:34 AM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose263 (Post 203397)
amantedelenguaje - thanks for the background - how tall with gros michael get -


Jose

My Gros Michel are still in the juvenile stage of growth. I don't know how tall they get, or if I'll ever be able to get them to fruit. I am growing them in pots in Zone 7. Not the ideal situation, but it's all I've got to work with.

You may wish to check out the following thread about the re-sold TC Gros Michel. http://www.bananas.org/f3/tc-gros-michel-15125.html

If you wish to speak with Chance1945, you will be more successful by sending him a private message. He runs a business, and may not see your post. Chance1945 business website is found at the following link Bayou Gardens - Home. He sells Gros Michel via this website, although he sold them cheaper to us here at Bananas.org. Good luck!

Darkman 08-26-2012 01:16 PM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
My experience with Tall Namwah was purely accidental although successful. I thought I had an Ice Creme but it was a Tall Namwah! No doubt the lack of Winter last year is the reason for the huge success with all of my bananas this year and may not be repeatable next year. I do believe the Tall Namwah is fruitable in 8b with adequat Winter protection such as Terry did.

Chance1945 08-26-2012 01:30 PM

Re: Last Call for Gros Michel (Chinese Golden Lotus)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose263 (Post 203397)
amantedelenguaje - thanks for the background - how tall with gros michael get -

andy17 - I'm in Biloxi - zone 8 - here's Namwah that bloomed in June also 3 orinico blooms this year.- I did winterize with a wire cage with leaves and plastic exterior with 7 foot pstem - but i suspect it would have done well anyway last winter..

Darkman has better results than me...
Looks like I may have to harvest early - Isaac is headed our way..

Thanks
Jose

Jose, hey. Sorry I haven't responded. Had some medical problems and now I and scrambling getting ready for Isaac, just as you are. I've got hundreds of plants that need to be moved to higher ground because I'm concerned with storm surge. As of right now you're in line for a direct hit which puts me on the east side of the storm - I envy you. I was on the east side of Ivan when it hit Pensacola and I never want to go through that again. I do have a gros michel that I'll try to protect for you.

Terry


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