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Old 09-10-2010, 10:45 PM   #41 (permalink)
 
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kru v/s red iholena i know since everyone is still learning there will be lots of mistakes, but whats the verdict here.. i kept asking about the red splotches on the top leaves of my red iholena and no one growing red iholena had anything to say about it.. only one member said his red iholena never had any red splotches on the top of the leaf ever.. he thinks red splotches may indicate kru. i have never grown kru so i cant really say anything for sure.





i dont think this this plant is kru . i noticed all of the people posting kru picks dont have any red wine color on the leaf's underside. my plant (red iholena?) has plenty of it ... also my p stem has more of it than any kru pics. i dont think many people (probably none) on this site have really fruited and confirmed red iholena. there is really no noticeable green in the p-stem as of today its virtually all wine. i can post more updated pics to illustrate... i know what iholena fruits look like (fruit flesh is salmon color) because i have a few pics of the iholena fruit (no leaf pics).. i think i can easily id it when i get fruit.. i cant post the pics i already have because they dont belong to me.
I have a young Mysore, its about 3-4ft tall. It has the pink powder coating under leaves and very pink midribs top and bottom. The P-stem has pink green and a lot of black in it, very dirty looking like Cavendish. I haven't ever seen a Mysore pup so I don't know if they have the red spots when they are young.
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I have a young Mysore, its about 3-4ft tall. It has the pink powder coating under leaves and very pink midribs top and bottom. The P-stem has pink green and a lot of black in it, very dirty looking like Cavendish. I haven't ever seen a Mysore pup so I don't know if they have the red spots when they are young.
yeah i looked at a lot of different possible matches. i also questioned whether or not this was a form of mysore/misi luki (Polynesian triangle source) i looked up red mysore/misi luki but couldn't find any good pics to compare.

im still leaning towards iholena subgroup based on its appearance at this stage.

i dont feel like asking the supplier about the origin of the mother block (really dont feel like pulling teeth) i will be waiting for this to mature and fruit for sure.
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How much difference is there between a flowering red ihoelne and flowering kru, it would be interesting if someone has had both of them to flower to see the difference in fruit and flower.

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Musa Red Iholene - Bananas Wiki
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Thanks Tony,but that one doesn't count as its the air brushed one in every red iholene pic you see either in a book or website selling them
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Here is a White if that helps,not air brushed

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Old 09-11-2010, 03:41 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Thanks Tony,but that one doesn't count as its the air brushed one in every red iholene pic you see either in a book or website selling them
they use the stock photos because they are probably not copyrighted or royalty free. i think its annoying that there are so many faded old stock photos being recycled... the date of a lot of these photos are around 1986 ?? im not bashing the photographer of these photos im talking about how they are overused by almost everyone.

i dont know how expensive it would be for a lot of the online plant sellers to update their pics.. if they need to condense or save space they should just use divided pics,and could show more detail as well . originality..originality...originality.

like i said before luckily i managed to get my hands on several copyrighted iholena pics. i cant post em here... i think there may be enough of us posting new pics on this site and other sites to do a halfway decent job of banana identification.
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I have some pictures I have taken of another of my Red Iholena mats, and some updated Kru pictures. I hope they help.

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Kru leaf underside


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I haven't really followed this thread, but I saw that 'Iholena Lele' ('Red Iholena') bunch photos were requested. Here are some. It is a totally different cultivar from 'Kru'.



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Thank you Gabe,

I though the Iholena Lele was the White Iholena. I will take pictures of my White Iholena sometime this week, and you'll see the source of my confusion on that point. Your Iholena Lele looks like my White Iholena.

Yours looks really good, especially the fruit!
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'White Iholena' is a little bit of a mystery, but likely it is a less colorful mutation/tissue culture sport of 'Iholena Lele' (syn. 'Red Iholena/Iholene').
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Here is my Red Iholene in the center of the picture (the tallest ones) and Kru (from Tony) to the right of it (with the red stem).

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[quote=Gabe15;141290]I haven't really followed this thread, but I saw that 'Iholena Lele' ('Red Iholena') bunch photos were requested. Here are some. It is a totally different cultivar from 'Kru'.

Hi Gabe15

How come only the second pic of your red iholene photos has a red p-stem and petiole.
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I haven't really followed this thread, but I saw that 'Iholena Lele' ('Red Iholena') bunch photos were requested. Here are some. It is a totally different cultivar from 'Kru'.

Hi Gabe15

How come only the second pic of your red iholene photos has a red p-stem and petiole.
The second photo is from a plant in Miami Florida, while the others are from a plant in Honolulu. Differences in environment can significantly affect what a plant looks like, even if they are clones of each other. Color especially changes very easily and can change depending on location and even the varying conditions within a specific location. There is the chance they are also slightly different varieties and there was a mutation, but like I said color changes very easily depending on conditions.
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