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Old 10-18-2013, 02:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm getting ready to buy a tray and was wondering if agristarts actually did have real ice cream banana plants? I mean the real Blue Java plants? Anyone with experience? I've been buying most of my banana plants I sell from agristarts and they see reputable but it seems the blue java 'ice cream' is a hard to get a real one.
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Old 10-18-2013, 03:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It seems like from past discussions there is pretty good consensus that they are all Tall Namwah, while their Misi Luki is also a Tall Namwah, but not quite as tall. If you're going to get Namwah, might as well get the Dwarf Namwah, which they also have.
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Don't you do tissue culturing yourself? You're in Southern California, and I know that there are a few sources of the real Ice Cream in your area. Maybe you can obtain a pup and put it into TC? I'm thinking about doing that with mine.
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It is my understanding that Agri-Starts is the tc supplier who has been supplying all the retailers with Fake Ice Cream/aka Namwah, so you shouldn't order from them if you want the real thing.

IMO Agri-Starts is a good company with some good people working for them. They've been friendly and helpful in all of my dealings with them.

I've been talking with one of their VP's about getting them to tc SH-3640, and he seems excited about adding it to their selection. It was on my agenda to help them get the real IC/BJ as well, and I anticipate that they'll be receptive and thankful about getting their IC problem rectified.

Actually, now that I think of it, I think I'll start a thread asking members what varieties they'd most like to see Agri-Starts add to their selection (the main benefit being that any variety that Agri-Starts tc's will become widely available and easily attainable).
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I'm getting ready to buy a tray and was wondering if agristarts actually did have real ice cream banana plants? I mean the real Blue Java plants? Anyone with experience? I've been buying most of my banana plants I sell from agristarts and they see reputable but it seems the blue java 'ice cream' is a hard to get a real one.
Do not buy Blue Java from them
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It's funny how people still want Ice cream when all taste reports have been bad.
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I think the name(s) along with the scarcity fuel the desire or it does for me. Do I really want one? No. Would I like to have one? Sure.
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I'd want it for the attractiveness of the fruit, the size of the plant, and its rarity.
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They are not rare I can pick one up tomorrow.
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They are not rare I can pick one up tomorrow.
Not particularly rare where we are if you know where to look.
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Lucky Cali bros get all the good stuff I'm going to find what I want thanks again Larry GL
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I think I trust my fellow Amigo's in the Test Taste, and won't bother.. From all accounts people are Happy w/ the Fake Ice Cream / Blue Java.. If it gets fixed people won't be satisfied, and look for something else.. but the sale will be complete and the only sucker will be the buyer from all accounts thus far.. :^)
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I think I trust my fellow Amigo's in the Test Taste, and won't bother.. From all accounts people are Happy w/ the Fake Ice Cream / Blue Java.. If it gets fixed people won't be satisfied, and look for something else.. but the sale will be complete and the only sucker will be the buyer from all accounts thus far.. :^)
But doesn't a little part of you wonder if those who have "the real deal" are hoarding those very special plants and just saying the fruit is awful while they snicker at the peasants who have no access to this sublime treat?
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No, sure don't... kinda like or similar to why I don't grow DC.., but I'm Happy for those that do & Succeed.. I have a threshold once a type hits it I cut slingload. I can grow something better even if it takes a lil more input.. Better is better.. :^)
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Hey, I grow a DC. Why? Because I wanted to treat myself to a plant on Mother's Day when I was at Lowes and that's what they had. I'm having a blast with her and learning a lot. Had I known she was unworthy of garden space, I'd have never found this group. I consider her a bargain even if she never produces at all.
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When its warm its the 2nd easiest banana to grow next to Orinoco.. :^)
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Well I guess I won't be getting those. I guess I will stick with the tray of Veinte Cohol.. and the Panda Purple Passion Fruit.
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If only that were true, lol! I've had a good sized plant for $12 I've been trying to sell at my farmers market for weeks. No takers. People around here tend to rip them out if they have them. I also have trouble selling the fruit when I have it. I'm winnowing them down from 5 plants to 1 after the next few fruit. The namwah fruit and plants sell quickly when I have them.
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