How to grow banana trees very tall! - Page 2

*Dearly Depotted* · 09-17-2020, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cincinnana

Unfortunately in our zone we have only 170-+ days to grow .
As your plants mature they will get taller, bigger,wider each year.

After a few summers the plants will most likely be a their peak size for the zone your are in.....then winter happens and you have to start over again...overwintering progressively larger/wider plants each season.

Expect your plants to be at max size in our zone with minimal indoor winter care in 3-4 grow cycles...by then you might have a flower or two

Great to know! I am glad to hear also that they will grow taller bigger and maybe a flower or so! YEAH! Very excited now! Thanks!

cincinnana · 09-18-2020, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by *Dearly Depotted*

Great to know! I am glad to hear also that they will grow taller bigger and maybe a flower or so! YEAH! Very excited now! Thanks!

You will have Gains....

*Dearly Depotted* · 09-18-2020, 08:53 PM

Very interesting! You know how many times I’ve read about mats here on bananas.org! Now that totally makes sense! You know what’s funny I think I even looked it up once already! Evidently forgot what I already learned! Oh, boy!

*Dearly Depotted* · 09-18-2020, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wstrickland1

I might be newer at this than you but I believe that means multiple plants pretty close together.

Sorry I missed your response! You’re pretty smart to figure that out by the way! Thanks!

*Dearly Depotted* · 09-18-2020, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronTT

The mat, is the root system of one established banana plant. It has transitioned from just a single corm, to a more complex "mat" of roots. One mat can hold multiple, or just a single above ground pseudo stem, which is the part you see that starts to produce leaves in increasing size as it gets bigger.

Sorry I missed your response as well! Thanks so much for helping me to understand what that meant!

*Dearly Depotted* · 10-18-2020, 09:49 PM

Here’s an update! I did get a couple of my plants (notice how I didn’t call them trees this time) taller than me this time! So a couple are over 6 foot tall! Just so you know I’m not near 6’ tall!

Yeah! So hopefully, next season they’ll get even taller than that! I’m very happy! Can’t you tell?!

Thanks again for the help from everybody on this thread!

smeash · 10-19-2020, 11:43 AM

Good planting site preparation, soil amendments, sunlight, water, additional fertilizer and MULCH! I have my namwah patch heavily mulched, and constantly add layers of manure, kitchen scraps, leaves, grass.. you name it. With each new layer i put down more wood chips. I dont mulch right on the Pstem, but leave that area clear for a few inches to prevent rot. I also fertilize weekly with about a 1/2 cup of 13/13/13 per plant. I further add potassium sulphate every 2 weeks. I really feel that good soil, and tons of organic matter are the key.. sunlight and water cant do much without a good root system to uptake nutrients and moisture. Most of my namwah are 13ft of Pstem, all of that growth since March/April. I have many other varieties as well, but the namwah are planted in the best prepared bed in the yard. The others are about 6-8 feet at this point in the season.

*Dearly Depotted* · 10-20-2020, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by smeash

Good planting site preparation, soil amendments, sunlight, water, additional fertilizer and MULCH! I have my namwah patch heavily mulched, and constantly add layers of manure, kitchen scraps, leaves, grass.. you name it. With each new layer i put down more wood chips. I dont mulch right on the Pstem, but leave that area clear for a few inches to prevent rot. I also fertilize weekly with about a 1/2 cup of 13/13/13 per plant. I further add potassium sulphate every 2 weeks. I really feel that good soil, and tons of organic matter are the key.. sunlight and water cant do much without a good root system to uptake nutrients and moisture. Most of my namwah are 13ft of Pstem, all of that growth since March/April. I have many other varieties as well, but the namwah are planted in the best prepared bed in the yard. The others are about 6-8 feet at this point in the season.

Thanks so much for the info! I think I’m going to try doing some of those things myself next spring! I don’t think I’ve ever used much mulch at all. Nor have I tried to put kitchen scraps & stuff like that either on my plants! Great way to recycle as well!

Sounds pretty interesting!

Wow! Your plants are that big already?! Amazing! Yeah, I’m definitely going to try your way for sure! I think I will have to go buy some 13-13-13 as well! Very excited for next year!

cincinnana · 10-20-2020, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by *Dearly Depotted*

Hello! I would like to know what is the trick to get your banana trees to grow really tall? I mean so far I think I’ve only been able to get my older bananas to about 6’ or so. It is kind of funny b/c I bought it at 5’! I think what might have happened was it had a pup and all the water & food went to it and not the Mom! Any tips or tricks I’d be grateful for! Thanks!

Move to Miami.

Your plants will take 3-5+ years to reach their potential.

For photos.....ask a moderater to post some for you....they will do that.

*Dearly Depotted* · 10-21-2020, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cincinnana

Move to Miami.

Your plants will take 3-5+ years to reach their potential.

For photos.....ask a moderater to post some for you....they will do that.

Yeah, I still live in hopes that I will be able to live in Florida someday!

It’s a little disappointing to hear it could take that long for the plants to get really big and fruitful one day! Oh well, it should be fun to watch them grow big & tall!

*Dearly Depotted* · 10-21-2020, 04:28 AM

Please check out my pictures.... Hopefully there will be more coming! Let me know what you think!

*Dearly Depotted* · 10-21-2020, 05:21 AM

By the way, I just found out yesterday that I was wrong. My plants are way taller than 6’ tall as I originally thought! I might be posting some photos later on today for you to see for yourselves! Thanks!b

Abnshrek · 10-21-2020, 06:51 AM

I think you could be anywhere in the 9 a or b and grow like a madman/ or woman. Corm power is a beautiful thing. I have a saba that got blown over in august from a Hurricane and it has 4' of stem since growing thru what was its stem. I think 3 years for Tissues cultures maybe true except for Veinte Cohol. I know I can get it to fruit in 2 years. Corm Power enables a person to grow Monster plants faster than tissue culture plants that have basically very little Corm. I have 4 flowers this year with no fertilization. Its the Banana's of Corona. Hopefully El' Nino' comes around I have some awesome stands of SH-3640, and hopefully I'll be eating FHIA-02 next year. I have a monster Caligold that is over 7' of stem w/o a flower I'm sure it will have a big flower, but all for not.. so goes life. :^)

*Dearly Depotted* · 10-22-2020, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Abnshrek

I think you could be anywhere in the 9 a or b and grow like a madman/ or woman. Corm power is a beautiful thing. I have a saba that got blown over in august from a Hurricane and it has 4' of stem since growing thru what was its stem. I think 3 years for Tissues cultures maybe true except for Veinte Cohol. I know I can get it to fruit in 2 years. Corm Power enables a person to grow Monster plants faster than tissue culture plants that have basically very little Corm. I have 4 flowers this year with no fertilization. Its the Banana's of Corona. Hopefully El' Nino' comes around I have some awesome stands of SH-3640, and hopefully I'll be eating FHIA-02 next year. I have a monster Caligold that is over 7' of stem w/o a flower I'm sure it will have a big flower, but all for not.. so goes life. :^)

Madwoman!

Love it! I can’t believe it that your Saba has made it thru a hurricane and yet has grown that big since then! Amazing! You know that’s what I thought only buy or grow corms and not tissue culture! I also can’t believe you didn’t fertilize and yet you have 4 flowers grown? I am shocked! Good for you! Very impressed! Thanks so much for your reply & info! One more thing yeah I wish I was in zone 8-10 but unfortunately I am only in zone 6A! Hopefully one day I will be living in a warmer climate! Fingers crossed!

ttiger · 10-30-2020, 02:10 PM

I grew 2 plants from 6 inches tall to about 4-5 feet in a single summer. To add height I would keep the tree at 3 uppermost leaves, fertilize monthly, water daily, and the summer heat of 2020.

They stopped growing when the weather cooled down, and suckers/pups started to grow. So if you don't have issue, remove any pups and provide as much light (natural or artificial) to continue growing.

*Dearly Depotted* · 10-30-2020, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ttiger

I grew 2 plants from 6 inches tall to about 4-5 feet in a single summer. To add height I would keep the tree at 3 uppermost leaves, fertilize monthly, water daily, and the summer heat of 2020.

They stopped growing when the weather cooled down, and suckers/pups started to grow. So if you don't have issue, remove any pups and provide as much light (natural or artificial) to continue growing.

Thanks! I appreciate your help! By the way I’m quite impressed about how big you got your plants in just one summer! Wow!

Yug · 10-30-2020, 09:10 PM

If you want tall bananas, my guess is you start with the taller varieties. The tallest edible banana I am aware of would be the Saba - a starchy, less sweet, 'cooking' banana. The 2nd tallest would be the Apple banana - p-stem is about 20 ft, and makes a smallish slightly 'fruity' tasting banana.

Anyone have different info?

*Dearly Depotted* · 10-30-2020, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Yug

If you want tall bananas, my guess is you start with the taller varieties. The tallest edible banana I am aware of would be the Saba - a starchy, less sweet, 'cooking' banana. The 2nd tallest would be the Apple banana - p-stem is about 20 ft, and makes a smallish slightly 'fruity' tasting banana.

Anyone have different info?

Sounds like a good idea! I’m just so happy & excited because I have those 2 varieties now! Yeah! Thanks for the help! I really appreciate it!

ttiger · 10-30-2020, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by *Dearly Depotted*

Thanks! I appreciate your help! By the way I’m quite impressed about how big you got your plants in just one summer! Wow!

I live in zone 5b (north of Toronto, Canada) and we got a spectacular growing season here in 2020. I had it in a planter app. 67L / 17gal, filled with half a bag of cow manure and the rest potting mix. The amount of roots that were in it when I downsized (to place in the basement) was unbelievable. They went the entire depth of the container, about 30 inches. I had to cut quite a few so that the overwintering planter was capable of being lifted downstairs.

This was my first time growing banana plants and it was exciting. To see a new leaf every week just blew my mind. My goal is to plant it outside in actual soil next spring.

*Dearly Depotted* · 10-30-2020, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ttiger

I live in zone 5b (north of Toronto, Canada) and we got a spectacular growing season here in 2020. I had it in a planter app. 67L / 17gal, filled with half a bag of cow manure and the rest potting mix. The amount of roots that were in it when I downsized (to place in the basement) was unbelievable. They went the entire depth of the container, about 30 inches. I had to cut quite a few so that the overwintering planter was capable of being lifted downstairs.

This was my first time growing banana plants and it was exciting. To see a new leaf every week just blew my mind. My goal is to plant it outside in actual soil next spring.

Wow! Congratulations!

A planter that big and it had roots went all the way down the container? Amazing! You did a great job! I am genuinely impressed! All of this on your first attempt at growing banana plants? Mind blown! You should be very proud! Thanks for sharing your story to me!

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