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Old 06-14-2008, 04:15 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I have a tree of heaven in my yard right now that came up on it's own (i didn't put it there). I cut it back every fall and it grows back to a beautiful 6-8' shrub the next year. It never gets a chance to seed before I cut it. It does have an interesting odor but for the easy care and tropical effect, I have enjoyed it. In vegas though I definately wouldn't want it to be too big and become invasive. The toxin doesn't sound too great either. Any other ideas on trees that would provide shade within 1 year?
cotin woods grow vary fast or desert burch they grow fast dont know how much shad you would get the first year depeds i gusse on how big it was at the time of planting also you mite consider
calaforna peper tree vary hardy in hot wether give dapaled shad id stay away for desert aloacasa they have invasif roots peaches nectreans apricot all do well here we have more then enuff chill time for them appls persimons standerd citris althou its kinda ify on citris but i have three and they are doing good myer is the best lemon its alot hardyer for cold mex lime is good my mxlim is one of the most butiful trees i have its dwarft goldin rain tree i think dos well smoke tree Ucaliptis they do grate here but are quite big i dont have room and they smell good in the heat crape mirtal dos realy well here too thers doszins more all keep going if nun of thouse fits your fancy
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Banana dude that was awsom thanks i was having problims with my Bananas the temps in my back yard are runing 110 to 115 even thoug i had them shaded after 11 so i took them inside for the rest of the summer as soon at the temps fall below 90 all plant them on the east fasing waill like the artical sujest mabe they will be ok but right now one looks like it mite croky time will tell i had to take my tropical passaflora in to it looked real bad it could be that my back yard is just to hot it gets sun all day but i have a 12x12 gazibo that iv been keeping them under well could be that my nanas are just to young to withstand the heat i dint get them out untill late april as he said he planted his the first of march my talest is only 2.5 ft ons only 12 "
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No problem; I hope it helps you. I can imagine growing bananas out there must be difficult. I've been to Vegas twice but always in the "nicer" times of year when the temps weren't bad.
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thanks Kitty you make me smile alot your self some times i get really down and its nice to hear a thanks and a chukl
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I've been in Vegas for a few weeks now and my bananas HATE it here. Their growth has slowed significantly and they are getting dried brown edges. They went from 110F 90% humidity to 105F 10% humidity. I'm hoping the they will do better this fall.
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hey Adam good to hear from you sorry your Bananas arnt doing well slow down on the Firtalizer i wouldint hit them ageb untill the heat drops below 95 day try spraying them and if youe have a place that only gets sun untill 12 that would be grate to i am puting mine on the east side of the house but thers no way that you arnt going to get some browing with this heat they will be ok if there in pots protect the post from direct sun you could even put some white sand on top of the soil to reflect some of the heat richard sugested shading them under some of the black screening the kind youw ues in windows and doors cuts down on the UV that is why they brown here they will adaped also try viriatys that are more drout resistint like Misore Ventracosums do prity well as they have big corms and have larg water holding copasitys its been a wicked summer this year i hafe exspected it do to the altra warm winter we had look out we get realy coold wintere after a hot summer its just a climet of exstreams im taking my Bananas in for the winter good luck and keep me posted on there progres befor you know it your gona get fruit promis!

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Yes, I am here and loving it! I found that placing my bananas in nearly full shade next to a pineapple palm tree has worked. It is next to a corner for wind protection too. They get dappled sunlight for a few hours each day. Haven't burned anything that I put there, and they are still putting out new leaves every week despite the heat. I water the walls and the ground around them and think it has become a microclimate.
The other corner has some small trees and a hedge for shade. I have my Aeae there along with Ice Cream and Itinerans. So far so good. I might pick up some shade cloth just to protect the Aeae a little more.
We should plan to get together soon to compare notes, commiserate and have some laughs. Send me a PM and we will get it planned.
We should form a Desert Banana Club. "The Amusing Musas"; "Musing musas"; "Desert desserts" just a few ideas for the name of our group.
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Yes, I am here and loving it! I found that placing my bananas in nearly full shade next to a pineapple palm tree has worked. It is next to a corner for wind protection too. They get dappled sunlight for a few hours each day. Haven't burned anything that I put there, and they are still putting out new leaves every week despite the heat. I water the walls and the ground around them and think it has become a microclimate.
The other corner has some small trees and a hedge for shade. I have my Aeae there along with Ice Cream and Itinerans. So far so good. I might pick up some shade cloth just to protect the Aeae a little more.
We should plan to get together soon to compare notes, commiserate and have some laughs. Send me a PM and we will get it planned.
We should form a Desert Banana Club. "The Amusing Musas"; "Musing musas"; "Desert desserts" just a few ideas for the name of our group.
Well, off to Home Depot for some larger pots and Fire ant killer - yeah they got me yesterday. Hate 'em.
wow i never have gotin bit but a fire ant but i do avoid them how about the desert rats thats what ever one in Vages calls them selfs any way or Mohavo musas or paying homig to are rich history how about Musa gang diling dirty musa gang lol just kiding its hard to make hordiculture sound tuff and cool lol
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All good ones, let's keep our options open and come up with something original and fitting.
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ok guys abd gals its 105 out side i just finished the new side yard with walk way and moving the fram of the green hos in to place on sunday so i dug hols for the banans and was planing on wating but scot has had such good progres with his i desided to put one of the ice creams out and the DB the pots sit in the grownd and i put post around them and hung shade cloth they will only get sun untill 12 mabe only 10 in the winter but im not takin any chanses they are both shooting up at a rate of 12" per week so im sure they will have time to fruit befor winter sets in im going to build a heated canapy over them if they do fruit
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wow that looks great. cant wait to see the finished yard with nanas swaying in the wind. great job!
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Sheesh Pauly, you HAVE been really working hard on this. It looks so different from my last visit. This is going to be beautiful with the bananas and other tropicals swaying in the breezes. Can't wait to see the greenhouse! Thanks for the pics.
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thanks Kitty its going to look realy good with all the plants iv got Bananas gigantic castor been coco yam 7 dirint pasafloras 3 difrint speseas canna one has red floig wont that be nice (incan ruby) going to plant some malabar spinich too and more but not untill nexst year for the rest so that hole bed is going to be all reds and difrint grees i think the Ventracoseums with there lime green leafs will make an outstanding contribution to the over all varations of coler mabe it will be to sutal and all have to amend it but for now thats my plant and im sticking to it :-P
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Adam, Are you still around? Been trying to reach you for the inaugural meeting of the Las Vegas Banana growers. Send me a PM when you can.
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September 01,2008 observations.
Having survived the hottest summer on record. We'll not exactly the hottest but certainly the one with the most days over 100 so far. Banana with the most growth has been dwarf Brazilian averaging one new leave every four days for a total of 10 leaves total growth since July 15th. The second fastest growing banana was the older of the two ice creams. Averaging one new banana leaf of every 10 days for total of six leaves. The slow growing or the Ensete Ventricosum which if only produced one leave
In the last two months. Overall growth on all the bananas has been unremarkable. However it appears that the more mature banana is more capable it is of surviving in high temperatures and low humidity. So in conclusion one must consider only placing very mature approximately six months to eight months plants in the. The process of acclimatization is slow in the desert environment. After placing the bananas outside on July 15 it took approximately 45 days to acclimatized the bananas to six hours of sun. During this process many leaves were scalded. However the new leaves grown in the last seven days appear to be a handle sun quite well sustaining no scalding to date. During this period of 45 days the bananas experienced three torrential downpours two of which had sustained winds of 70 miles an hour. For a total of 1.75 inches of rain. And sustain temperatures of 105 day and 85 night. all those subjects receive regular watering every other day for a total of three inches per week. Regular fertilizing on a monthly basis with vigrow slow release Palm food. With the shortening days and changing Engel of the sun they are starting to experience much lower levels of ultraviolet light and lower temperatures. I attribute the increasing growth to this fact. It will be very interesting to see how the bananas grow during our extended Fall which should last for September 1 threw December 1. Based on the observations of Overalla weather patterns in the U.S. Predictions of overall cold weather with early onset will probably shorten our normally extended growing season. Although this is just subjective I feel that the dwarf Brazilian will bloom sometime from December to march all subject plans are going to be over wintered indoors should the Brazilian bloom in December this would be optimal for fruit ripening before the onset of hot weather.
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Sounds like you're really having fun now, Pauley! Continued good luck to you and Scot out there! I'll be there at the very end of Feb-early March for the NASCAR race. Maybe we can get together depending on how our time goes.
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