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10-18-2005, 08:58 AM | #21 (permalink) |
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Re: Hi, I'm Bobby... I'm new here
Carlos-I have yet to have it bloom with more than one stalk but it is my fault. My understanding is that the plant only does that after the first stalk of fruit has been harvested. I keep transplanting my plant after the first bloom in an effort to find it a better home. (It blooms a little later than some and I am trying to get it into a more protected location.) I think I have finally got it settled into it's permanent location so I'm hoping next year....
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Re: Hi, I'm Bobby... I'm new here
Hi Bobby,
Nice picture you have in your gallery. What is the palm plant you have in the background of that picture?
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It’s a very nice specimen. Where do you store your palms in the winter?
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I rent a truck and I take some of them to a local arboretum, some to a friends' greenhouse and I put the other ones in my living room.
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Wow, you have your hands full. I'm sure it's well with it.
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Re: Hi, I'm Bobby... I'm new here
most likely your problem is going to be the 10' CENTER height with 4' side walls.
which would mean that the plant will need to grow in center of gh. then you need to consider that the plant will lean when ready to fruit. then when plant is pushing leaves out go straight up first, then lay over. mike stated stretch factor which will effect the overall height also.. most folks here are in zone 9 and above and grow outdoors with no problems. their heights will give you a idea of min. to expect, but add at least a 1/2 to foot over. the only exceptions i have seen are on the first year plants which are around 4' then put into gh in ground to fruit.. my walls are 8' on one end and 12' center and the other end is 13' center and 9' side walls.. *it's on a down grade the dwarf orinoco reached height of 7' on stem and when it fruited the paddle was pushing top of roof, as were last few leaves. i had to get on ladder and fix the leaves so they would fall over and lay correct. the raja puri was 6' (first year plant) when fruited and leaves were touching the roof. this plant as all has stated are erect at 45 angle which means will need more side height than the d.o., d.o. leaves are not erect. the whole cavendish group are the same erect habit.. that said, i would look at plants that will match 3/4 side wall height. this will allow the 4-5' leaves to grow as they normally would. if you grow a plant up to 6' your only allowing for 4' in center for your leaves and giving no consideration to the stretch factor and leaves going straight up before they lay over.. some folks could care less but me i don't want the leaves craming up against my roof. i believe this will cause the plant to possibly start the leaves to not fully come out before the other new leaf starts, IMHO. keep your ears open as i'll post pics of the 3 rajas second year plants on original mother corm, before fall sets in.. these are only MY THOUGHTS and learned growing pains..LOL when i started the gh thing folks couldn't understand what i meant about air space. do you see what i'm saying?? mahoi, means double and this will happen on a second year plant on same mother corm. won't happen with first year plant. here's a link to fruiting raja pics http://spaces.msn.com/members/sgbana...&_c=PhotoAlbum here's a link to my bananas http://spaces.msn.com/members/sgbananas/
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Is that the same Banana as in my gallery?:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showp...=500&ppuser=76 I'd desperately like to know what kind it is. |
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if yur asking is yur plant a raja, nope
they don't have red on midrib.. solid green except a small red tinge around leaf..
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hmm supposed i need to watch weather..
coming week is getting a bit low..so went ahead and covered 1 layer on gh today.. here's the raja as of date.
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I'm not sure why some folks think that the banana needs light to "make it through" winter. If you just bring them in and stop watering them (keep barely moist/dry) they will store just fine. They pretty much go dormant. You will most likely do more damage than good with "plant lights" in my oppinion. Unless your talking at least 1000W of Metal Halide. To week of light is going to cause them to think they can grow but only produce spindly week growth.
I have stashed young plants that I didn't want any frost damage on in the garage (in the dark) several times. They look a bit ratty come spring but they are fine. My 2 cents anyway. Mike |
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Bobby, I wouldn't hesitate to just bring them in. I have a very large potted Raja Puri I am going to bring in by one of our south facing windows.
I guess it all comes down to what you are trying to accomplish. As long as you keep them from freezing they will survive. But active growth is another thing. How large where the palms you over-wintered? I think you would be better off investing in a 1000W MH light than running 10 150W Spots. You would have more lumens and use less juice. I hope I don't seem to be discouraging you in any way. As you can see below I am all up for plant experimentation. All I am saying is that to keep an almost full size banana actively growing indoors would be a major commitment. One of my large bananas alone would take up the area that a 1000W light can cover. Mike |
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That's awesome, Mike....
Yeah, I can tell you're definitely committed - me too. Yeah, I thought about the Metal-Halide Light - These grow-lights cost me a fortune last year. for the Palms I just use Compact flourescants for and they seem to be ok with that. The whole problem I have with my house is that, although I have alot of room, I have very little light .. I have two rooms that have South-Facing windows with decent light but They're not rooms where I can put plants because one is my wife's room for her rabbits and the other is the bedroom and she's kill me if I got the carpet dirty. If I put it in my room that I have set-up for plants It'll probably take over the whole room. I cannot believe how big these plants have gotten - I never would've imagined that that little Dwarf-Cavendish that I bought in a 3-inch pot at the nursery would've gotten as big as it has. The palms that I over-wintered were all different sizes (5-12ft Adonidias, 1-20ft Queen, 4-3ft Cocos Nucifera, a few Washingtonias) and the ones that I have in my living room. Maybe I can just keep the banana in my living room with the compact flourescants - It's not that bright but it's decent. I guess I just have to come to terms with the fact that "Non-Active Growth" doesn't = Death.. that's my fear. |
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