Bananas.org

Welcome to the Bananas.org forums.

You're currently viewing our message boards as a guest which gives you limited access to participate in discussions and access our other features such as our wiki and photo gallery. By joining our community, you'll have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Go Back   Bananas.org > Banana Forum > Main Banana Discussion
Register Photo Gallery Classifieds Wiki Chat Map Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Main Banana Discussion This is where we discuss our banana collections; tips on growing bananas, tips on harvesting bananas, sharing our banana photos and stories.


Members currently in the chatroom: 0
The most chatters online in one day was 17, 09-06-2009.
No one is currently using the chat.

Reply   Email this Page Email this Page
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-23-2019, 07:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 5
BananaBucks : 3,840
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 7 Times
Was Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Help! Choking in Cavendish Banana

How can we say that the banana is already Choking? is there any distance of petiole that we can consider it already Choking?

Any Comment/suggestion is very big help, Thank you in advance. . .
mark2019 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To mark2019
Said thanks:

Join Bananas.org Today!

Are you a banana plant enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Bananas.org is owned and operated by fellow banana plant enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information. Receive all three issues from Volume 1 of Bananas Magazine with your membership:
   

Join Bananas.org Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 01-24-2019, 05:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
Sarah Brubacker's Avatar
 
Location: Wentworth MO
Zone: 6b
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 184
BananaBucks : 21,077
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 63 Times
Was Thanked 413 Times in 104 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 389 Times
Default Re: Help! Choking in Cavendish Banana

I've had a couple super dwarf banana plants choke while the flower is coming up. The way you can see it is when the leaves are not coming out all the way. The next leaf comes out before the other opens and it just keeps doing that.

If it's just a small plant, my experience with them is when I transplant them, sometimes they choke (not often) those will just bust out the side, I'll help just for fun, I like messing around with plants and doing surgeries I have a picture of a small plant that "choked" recently and can take a picture of that. Also have a SD that looks like I'll have to do a surgery on it shortly. Can take a picture of that if you would like to see a pic.
I am sure theres other people with advice as well. This is just my idea/thoughts on choking.
Sarah Brubacker is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Sarah Brubacker
Old 01-24-2019, 10:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
Iowa's Avatar
 
Location: Burlington,Iowa
Zone: 5
Name: Mike
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 682
BananaBucks : 34,662
Feedback: 3 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 544 Times
Was Thanked 951 Times in 356 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 561 Times
Default Re: Help! Choking in Cavendish Banana

Quote:
Originally Posted by mark2019 View Post
How can we say that the banana is already Choking? is there any distance of petiole that we can consider it already Choking?

Any Comment/suggestion is very big help, Thank you in advance. . .
When mine (Orinoco) go in the ground in the spring I cut the top off. Then watch for growth, if the leaf stops coming out I cut more off (5 or 6 inches) and watch for growth. Repeat as needed, sometimes you will see a bump in the p-stem, a lot times this will be where the choke is.

[IMG][/IMG]
__________________
Growing Musa Orinoco since 1993 - Added 2018-Basjoo, Zebrina' Rojo, Ensete Red Abyssinian - Added 2019-Goldfinger - Added 2020-Kokopo (Short Cycle), Double (Mahoi), Highgate, Super Dwarf Cavendish - Added 2021-Pisang Ceylon(Mysore), Musa Margarita, Ensete Ventricosum

Last edited by Iowa : 01-24-2019 at 10:30 AM.
Iowa is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Iowa
Old 01-24-2019, 11:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
Location: Gulf Coast Mississippi
Zone: 9a
Name: TJ
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 522
BananaBucks : 39,205
Feedback: 6 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 1,135 Times
Was Thanked 713 Times in 357 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 149 Times
Default Re: Help! Choking in Cavendish Banana

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarah Brubacker View Post
I've had a couple super dwarf banana plants choke while the flower is coming up. The way you can see it is when the leaves are not coming out all the way. The next leaf comes out before the other opens and it just keeps doing that.

If it's just a small plant, my experience with them is when I transplant them, sometimes they choke (not often) those will just bust out the side, I'll help just for fun, I like messing around with plants and doing surgeries I have a picture of a small plant that "choked" recently and can take a picture of that. Also have a SD that looks like I'll have to do a surgery on it shortly. Can take a picture of that if you would like to see a pic.
I am sure theres other people with advice as well. This is just my idea/thoughts on choking.
My thoughts on the choking - too much phosphorus. Also when cigar leaves start growing out of the pstem too fast and tangle - probably need to back off on fertilizer.
__________________
Growing: Orinoco, Rajapuri, Dwarf Cav, SDC, TT, Dwarf Red, Dwarf Namwah, Tall Namwah (aka Ice Cream), Dwarf Brazilian, Veinte Cohol, California Gold, Double Mohai, NOT-Goldfinger, Gran Nain, Velutina
Jose263 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Jose263
Old 01-25-2019, 01:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
Location: IL
Zone: 6a (10 miles east of 5b)
Name: Steve
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 490
BananaBucks : 128,719
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 14 Times
Was Thanked 762 Times in 307 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 5 Times
Default Re: Help! Choking in Cavendish Banana

Quote:
Originally Posted by mark2019 View Post
How can we say that the banana is already Choking? is there any distance of petiole that we can consider it already Choking?

Any Comment/suggestion is very big help, Thank you in advance. . .
My guess is that spraying with 200 ppm gibberellic acid (GA) will help. I'm too lazy to explain my rationale. Easy enough to do and worth a try.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gibberellic...r/282226829993

Dissolve 0.2 g. in about 15 cc alcohol and add that to a quart of water and shake.
aruzinsky is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To aruzinsky
Sponsors

Old 01-28-2019, 10:56 AM   #6 (permalink)
container grower
 
cincinnana's Avatar
 
Location: Southwest Ohio U.S.A.🇺🇸
Zone: HZ 6/5 Microclimate - Elevation 750 feet- 228.60 meters
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 8,491
BananaBucks : 734
Feedback: 7 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,838 Times
Was Thanked 11,286 Times in 4,719 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,811 Times
Default Re: Help! Choking in Cavendish Banana

Quote:
Originally Posted by mark2019 View Post
How can we say that the banana is already Choking? is there any distance of petiole that we can consider it already Choking?

Any Comment/suggestion is very big help, Thank you in advance. . .
Judging from your photos it seems to me to be a spurt of growth from bringing the plants to more desirable conditions.
They were kept in a cool basement for a period of time which changes the growth cycle

The leaves just can't get out of the way fast enough for the new leaf.

For me choking involves dead tissue blocking the growth of a new leaf in the pstem.

I do not see any symptoms like that on your plant and it is pushing a new leaf.
Sometimes new leaves will just push a few inches then stop when conditions change.
Looks somewhat normal and like a few of my plants

Here are my choke symptoms and what it looks like in the stem

Choke
Another choke
__________________
🌴
cincinnana is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To cincinnana
Old 01-28-2019, 02:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
Iowa's Avatar
 
Location: Burlington,Iowa
Zone: 5
Name: Mike
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 682
BananaBucks : 34,662
Feedback: 3 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 544 Times
Was Thanked 951 Times in 356 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 561 Times
Default Re: Help! Choking in Cavendish Banana

Quote:
Originally Posted by cincinnana View Post
Judging from your photos it seems to me to be a spurt of growth from bringing the plants to more desirable conditions.
They were kept in a cool basement for a period of time which changes the growth cycle

The leaves just can't get out of the way fast enough for the new leaf.

For me choking involves dead tissue blocking the growth of a new leaf in the pstem.

I do not see any symptoms like that on your plant and it is pushing a new leaf.
Sometimes new leaves will just push a few inches then stop when conditions change.
Looks somewhat normal and like a few of my plants

Here are my choke symptoms and what it looks like in the stem

Choke
Another choke
cincinnana is right yours look like leaves pushing and will come out of it. Choking happens a lot more on plants stored dormant it seems. Some great pics of chokes.
__________________
Growing Musa Orinoco since 1993 - Added 2018-Basjoo, Zebrina' Rojo, Ensete Red Abyssinian - Added 2019-Goldfinger - Added 2020-Kokopo (Short Cycle), Double (Mahoi), Highgate, Super Dwarf Cavendish - Added 2021-Pisang Ceylon(Mysore), Musa Margarita, Ensete Ventricosum
Iowa is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Iowa
Said thanks:
Old 01-29-2019, 08:21 AM   #8 (permalink)
The Banana Gang Enforcer
 
HMelendez's Avatar
 
Zone: 10B-11
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,750
BananaBucks : 174,882
Feedback: 5 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 11,104 Times
Was Thanked 5,278 Times in 1,618 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 737 Times
Default Re: Help! Choking in Cavendish Banana

Mark2019,




You can't get a better advice, suggestion than The Dr. Nana Surgeon (cincinnana) gave you!......Just joking buddy!......LOL!.....Seriously, my respect and admiration to Mike (cincinnana)!.....A very experienced Nana grower with all kinds of Nana surgeries performed!.......






__________________
HMelendez is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To HMelendez
Old 02-19-2019, 08:14 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 5
BananaBucks : 3,840
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 7 Times
Was Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Help! Choking in Cavendish Banana

actually i've been using GA3 in a couple of months ago but the newly leaves that emerge is also decreasing. there are article that i've read that when the leaves of the banana is decreasing it is already choking. so maybe the GA3 will response on the Bunch weight, i guest so. .
mark2019 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To mark2019
Reply   Email this Page Email this Page

Previous Thread: I need a supplier of cypress knees!
Next Thread: Yellow





Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
choking in Banana mark2019 Banana Plant Soil, Additives, and Fertilizer 2 01-27-2019 08:07 PM
Choking oakshadows Main Banana Discussion 4 10-06-2011 03:07 PM
Dwarf Cavendish Choking cowboyup4christ Main Banana Discussion 3 08-12-2009 03:39 PM
Choking? rosebud161616 Main Banana Discussion 1 08-21-2008 12:06 PM
choking? sunfish Main Banana Discussion 7 07-15-2008 09:32 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:38 PM.





All content © Bananas.org & the respective author.