green aeae-can it put up variegated pups?

sandy0225 · 08-16-2010, 02:32 PM

I have a removed pup from my aeae. It's all green so far, about 8" tall,and I expect it's probably going to stay that way. Can it ever put out variegated pups itself when it gets bigger, or is it basically just a dud?

Gabe15 · 08-16-2010, 03:12 PM

I once had a plant I found tissue culture which was slightly variegated, reverted to green, but then produce variegated suckers. That was a different situation from what you are dealing with, and although I've never heard of an all green A'ea'e produce variegated suckers, I suppose it's possible if there is still some small portion of chimeric meristem which isn't showing much or any variegation in the current growth, but could be expressed better with age...but I wouldn't count on it. It would be highly unlikely for it to produce variegated suckers, but it's still a nice plant, and although you don't live in an easy banana growing climate, the plant can still make great fruit if you get it to fruit one day, somehow.

sandy0225 · 08-16-2010, 07:19 PM

Oh well, at least I'm good with aeae. They seem easy to grow to me. And this one is growing fast, unlike the variegated. So I'll keep her around and see what develops.

tastyratz · 08-17-2010, 11:27 AM

I *believe* I read somewhere that aeae will put out a variegated pup green or not on average 1 out of 4, and that they have approximately a 50% survival rate at no fault of the owner (hence why its so expensive).

Whether or not those numbers or claims are true I couldn't tell you

sandy0225 · 08-27-2010, 02:40 PM

Anyway, I guess I was just rushing it. It now has just a little bit of white on it so it's not going to be all green after all.

srash · 08-28-2010, 10:00 AM

I have an ae ae with a pseudostem that is now nearly 6 feet tall. The larger it has become, I've noticed less variegation - to the point that the last 2 leaves are nearly completely green. Does anyone know if the amount of sun exposure or the type of fertilizer affects variegation?

Bob · 08-28-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by srash

I have an ae ae with a pseudostem that is now nearly 6 feet tall. The larger it has become, I've noticed less variegation - to the point that the last 2 leaves are nearly completely green. Does anyone know if the amount of sun exposure or the type of fertilizer affects variegation?

Back off on the nitrogen. I've read and been told that too high a nitrogen in the fertilizer could lead to just what you're describing. I was even advised to plant my potted one using an amended garden soil rather than the commercial potting mix I'd normally use just for this reason and the variegation remains stunning.

sandy0225 · 09-09-2010, 06:15 PM

I've used exactly the same fertilizer on mine that I use on the others, 24-8-16 during the summer 20-20-20 in the spring and 20-10-20 on infrequent winter waterings. It's not changed a bit on variegation. Maybe some are more sensitive to nitrogen than others?

djmb74 · 09-09-2010, 06:59 PM

When I purchased my 4 Ae Ae's the gentlemen I got them from he showed me a 14ft tall green Ae Ae that pupped from one of the mother plants. He said it never produced variegated pups.

PR-Giants · 08-12-2022, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabe15

I once had a plant I found tissue culture which was slightly variegated, reverted to green, but then produce variegated suckers. That was a different situation from what you are dealing with, and although I've never heard of an all green A'ea'e produce variegated suckers, I suppose it's possible if there is still some small portion of chimeric meristem which isn't showing much or any variegation in the current growth, but could be expressed better with age...but I wouldn't count on it. It would be highly unlikely for it to produce variegated suckers, but it's still a nice plant, and although you don't live in an easy banana growing climate, the plant can still make great fruit if you get it to fruit one day, somehow.

It's definitely possible and it happens often but you'll get more variegated pups from a variegated a'ea'e.

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