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01-23-2010, 09:47 AM | #121 (permalink) |
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Re: Grafting Bananas by the Insistent Banana Grower - Mauro
I saw the video of the lady finger/basjoo, do you have any lady finger banana plants to compare that have not been grafted?
In regard to citrus, there are many other varieties that I didn't mention that are very cold hardy. Some of these varieties with a cold hardiness rating can be found on a german site located here: Zitruspflanzen-Grtnerei Voss . Last edited by jeffreyp : 01-23-2010 at 11:34 AM. |
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Or here (go into each section to read about those citruses in English):
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Mauro, I think you know that the Citrus grown in Brazil (and everywhere else) is native to China?
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The Brazilian wild lemon I was telling you about grew wild in Vietnam, too. I bought them in the market in Hanoi. I think the Portuguese and the Italians took the citrus to Brazil during Colombus days. I do a lot of reading but I don't talk much about it, because people will think that I'm trying to be the bright guy. I really like history. Thank you for you comment. Please be in touch. Mauro |
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So yes, the far east did not have any fruits (guavas, chilies, etc.) of the western hemisphere until a Spanish Galleon landed in Manilla in 1526. The captain made a small fortune! A few ships made the reverse trek in the next few years, but in 1531 The Spanish and the Dutch arrived in the Caribbean and what is now Venezuela with small fleets of ships carrying many agricultural goods to trade. And so it began!
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The only part of history which makes me sad is that the great Christopher Columbus, died in a convent in Valladolid, Spain, pennyless and forgotten by everyone. When you have time please write to me about history. And I will tell you about what I've learned here in Asia. Bye for now and thank you. |
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Some say Christopher Columbus was technically Italian because he was born in Genoa, Italy but spain gets all the credit.
I think it's interesting to see how plants evolve when grown in different parts of the world. The Japanese Ichiban eggplant comes to mind, quite a big variation from the black beauty variety we grow here in the states. Do you know what USDA gardening zone you are in ? Jelitto Perennial Seeds: Japan Hardiness Zones . Last edited by jeffreyp : 01-24-2010 at 11:44 AM. |
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There are many banana varieties that will grow in zone 9a but even still I hope your grafting does confer some benefit.
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I mean not in greenhouses, in the open field. I was told that the Raja Puri was cold tolerant, but that wasn't true. About 5 years ago we didn't have the Raja Puri here in Japan. Some guys, banana enthusiasts, imported few seedlings from Canada. I asked my brother to look for the Raja Puri in Brazil for me and as he couldn't find any in Brazil, he bought the Raja Puri in California and brought them to me here in Kameyama. Out of 72 seedlings only 5 survived the first winter and those that survived looked pretty bad. So I took 2 seedlings to Okinawa where the climate is subtropical and I have harvested good bananas these past years. If you know edible bananas that can produce in the open field in zone 9a, could you tell me their names, please. Thank you, Mauro. |
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I meant small plants grown in labs through tissue culture. They looked like leeks. My brother hid 72 plants in a small chocolate box so the customs wouldn't find them. Japan forbids the import of banana plants from Us. Only from Canada is okay. But I didn't find anyone in Canada to send them to me. I hope the results will justify the means though. I don't feel bad about smuggling them because they were guaranteed desease free plants.
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Mauro,
As we discussed before, there is a problem with the USDA cold hardiness zones. For some people, "9a" is about 10 nights a year of temperatures dropping from 35 F to 25 F and otherwise daytime temperatures above 40 F. However, for a lot of people "9a" is daytime temperatures in the high 30's and nighttime temperatures in the low 20's. Obviously, fruiting bananas grown in the 1st example are not likely to survive in the 2nd.
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1. they are corms with no leaves and insignificant stalk and very clean - no dirt. 2. the nursery has a CITES permit or gets a phytosanitary certificate for the corm. The key is that it must be a corm - therefore falling into the seed and bulb category of plant material.
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It has been said that humans emerged on earth about 40 million years ago. In Japan, at the Iwajuku site in Gunma Prefecture, flaked stone tools dated about 30,000 years ago have been excavated. In all there are about 5,000 sites in Japan from the Paleolithic age. While tools have been found in abundance from the Paleolithic era, human remains have not been excavated in any great quantity and there is very little concrete knowledge about the Stone Age humans. The total picture of Paleolithic humans was made substantially clearer with the discovery of the Minatogawa remains found in 1967 in Okinawa. It was a complete fossil find showing the skull, hands, and feet of a modern human and was dated to 17.000 years ago. This discovery allowed researchers to get a clear and concrete idea of the appearance of Paleolithic humans and contributed to a great advance in research on the Stone Age. There have been finds of human fossils in other parts of Okinawa as well; the Yama****a Dojin human in Naha City, the Shimoji-genjin human on Kume-jima Island, and the Pinza-abu human on Miyakojima Island. |
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