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caliboy1994 11-05-2011 06:30 PM

Good dwarf plantain varieties?
 
I'm thinking of getting some kind of plantain next season, but because I get lots of wind in my area during the fall I need a dwarf variety. Winds have already gotten over 50mph in my area. It needs to be cold hardy and be able to produce in zone 10a. I was thinking maybe Dwarf Puerto Rican, but is that cold hardy in my zone? Does anyone have any other suggestions?

venturabananas 11-05-2011 07:38 PM

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Pitangadiego has tried several and hasn't found one that can consistently hack the cool, wet So Cal winters. I think he's trying dwarf French plantain, which seems to do OK at Quail Gardens. Or you could just go with dwarf Orinoco or dwarf Namwah, both of which are good cooked and don't have a problem with our weather.

sunfish 11-05-2011 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas (Post 177885)
Pitangadiego has tried several and hasn't found one that can consistently hack the cool, wet So Cal winters. I think he's trying dwarf French plantain, which seems to do OK at Quail Gardens. Or you could just go with dwarf Orinoco or dwarf Namwah, both of which are good cooked and don't have a problem with our weather.

I THINK Dwarf Puerto Rican Plantain.

caliboy1994 11-05-2011 11:52 PM

Re: Good dwarf plantain varieties?
 
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Originally Posted by venturabananas (Post 177885)
Pitangadiego has tried several and hasn't found one that can consistently hack the cool, wet So Cal winters. I think he's trying dwarf French plantain, which seems to do OK at Quail Gardens. Or you could just go with dwarf Orinoco or dwarf Namwah, both of which are good cooked and don't have a problem with our weather.

I'm already planning on getting D. Namwah since it should be able to brave the winds we get here. I'll look into D. Orinoco as well.

Nicolas Naranja 11-06-2011 09:31 PM

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dwarf puerto rican does well here, the dwarf super plantain has trouble with finger diseases

caliboy1994 11-06-2011 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicolas Naranja (Post 178055)
dwarf puerto rican does well here, the dwarf super plantain has trouble with finger diseases

Thanks. The only thing I'm worried about here is the cool, wet winters.

Nicolas Naranja 11-07-2011 11:19 AM

Re: Good dwarf plantain varieties?
 
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Originally Posted by caliboy1994 (Post 178057)
Thanks. The only thing I'm worried about here is the cool, wet winters.

If you can provide drainage, they should be ok. You might not get 10" fruit, but you should get a plantain.

caliboy1994 11-07-2011 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicolas Naranja (Post 178082)
If you can provide drainage, they should be ok. You might not get 10" fruit, but you should get a plantain.

That's not great because my soil isn't particularly well draining. I have a layer of good topsoil, and underneath that is a thick layer of heavy clay. I could probably offset this by amending the soil though.

Nicolas Naranja 11-08-2011 10:22 AM

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You could put the tree on a raised bed or dig a big hole and ammend it with better draining soil or you could put in drainage tile, but you would need somewhere to drain into.

bananimal 11-08-2011 01:44 PM

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Do you have a slope -- with full sun?

caliboy1994 11-08-2011 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bananimal (Post 178172)
Do you have a slope -- with full sun?

I have lots of places with full sun, but the slope is taken by one of my Not Ice Creams. There is a place in full sun at the bottom of a slight slope where I planned on putting it, but water tends to collect in that place. Maybe I can find a way to drain it?

Nicolas Naranja 11-08-2011 04:39 PM

Re: Good dwarf plantain varieties?
 
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Originally Posted by caliboy1994 (Post 178177)
I have lots of places with full sun, but the slope is taken by one of my Not Ice Creams. There is a place in full sun at the bottom of a slight slope where I planned on putting it, but water tends to collect in that place. Maybe I can find a way to drain it?

Basically you could build a mound and trench around it. If you could get you the soil about 2' above the lowest point you would be ok.

sunfish 11-08-2011 05:03 PM

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Another option is a gravel sump.

caliboy1994 11-08-2011 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 178213)
Another option is a gravel sump.

What's a gravel sump?

Nicolas Naranja 11-08-2011 10:42 PM

Re: Good dwarf plantain varieties?
 
give us enough time and your yard would be a marvel of modern hydrologic engineering.:08:

caliboy1994 11-08-2011 10:53 PM

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Haha I wish...

sunfish 11-09-2011 07:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by caliboy1994 (Post 178238)
What's a gravel sump?

Basically you dig your plant hole. In a corner of the plant hole you dig a sump,hole, with a post hole digger.Install a piece of perforated drain pipe with filter sock.Leave the pipe 4" above soil level.Any excess water in the planting pit will flow into the sump.The pipe allows air in which helps dry up the water.You can also use a hand pump to pump out the sump. If you are lucky and have gotten deep enough to good soil the water will drain on it's own.:08:

Darkman 11-09-2011 05:27 PM

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Put in lots of gravel sumps.

Pump them to one small pond.

Pump the pond to the top of your property.

Build a stream bed for the water to flow back down to the pond.

Now you have water feature and have solved your drainage problem.

:woohoonaner: :nanadrink:

caliboy1994 11-09-2011 05:30 PM

Re: Good dwarf plantain varieties?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkman (Post 178316)
Put in lots of gravel sumps.

Pump them to one small pond.

Pump the pond to the top of your property.

Build a stream bed for the water to flow back down to the pond.

Now you have water feature and have solved your drainage problem.

:woohoonaner: :nanadrink:

Thanks for the sarcasm. :ha::ha::ha: But I need a cheap, easy solution. Maybe I could just plant it farther back from that spot.

sunfish 11-09-2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by caliboy1994 (Post 178317)
Thanks for the sarcasm. :ha::ha::ha: But I need a cheap, easy solution. Maybe I could just plant it farther back from that spot.

Easy solution plant a guava


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