florida white

mm4birds · 04-09-2008, 08:58 PM

Anybody see this plant for sale on ebay. It has no green pigment at all. How long can it survive? And look at the price for a plant that obviously will burn in any sunlight. Musa Heliconia Variegated "Florida White" Banana Rare - eBay (item 110241605519 end time Apr-13-08 16:45:48 PDT)

D_&_T · 04-09-2008, 09:16 PM

How would it live with so much white?

john_ny · 04-09-2008, 09:56 PM

I don't think any true plant could survive without any green parts, and I,certainly, would not buy it on e-bay. (I have never bought anything on e-bay; I think it is too prone to scams. I am quite sure most banana buyers can find the same kind of deals elsewhwere, or here, where there is a higher degree of trust.

chong · 04-09-2008, 10:01 PM

It has some green at the pstem.

microfarmer · 04-09-2008, 10:17 PM

Ok, so I pays you $299 American dollars for this plant, and then another $50 for shipping from Bangkok, Thailand. Then, I can't put it in sun, and possibly not even bright light. I'll even wager the guy just made up what he thought was the best selling name.

Where do I sign? NOT!

Bananaman88 · 04-09-2008, 10:23 PM

Quite ugly, if you ask me. And why do they call it Musa Heliconia? They probably don't even know what it is! It already looks burnt. I wouldn't buy it for 2.99, much less 299!

jpfloors · 04-09-2008, 10:55 PM

I actually think it's kind of cool looking LOL but hey, I like to be different, I put in an offer for $1.00... maybe I'll win, what do you all think? LOL

magicgreen · 04-09-2008, 11:15 PM

HAHAHAHAHhahahahah! That's funny!

Tropicallvr · 04-09-2008, 11:55 PM

That might be the same guy that his been selling for awhile on ebay, from Bangkok. I think Mark might have ordered a really nice varigated balbisiana type from him. His other ones are better looking and cheaper, maybe he thinks more white means more $green$.

mskitty38583 · 04-10-2008, 12:26 AM

you know id would like to see this plant in person. 300.00 for a plant plus the 50.00 for shipping papers? i dont think so. i think i would pay 100.-150.00 for an ae ae, but for that. nope not this cat. it is pretty, i like funky looking plants.

chong · 04-10-2008, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bananaman88

Quite ugly, if you ask me. And why do they call it Musa Heliconia? They probably don't even know what it is! It already looks burnt. I wouldn't buy it for 2.99, much less 299!

I'll buy it for $2.99, if the shipping weren't any more than $10-$12!

chong · 04-10-2008, 12:34 AM

And I'm sure with the lack of sunshine here in Seattle, it'll be a HIT!

mskitty38583 · 04-10-2008, 12:38 AM

it would be something i could grow in my hallway. its dark in there. lol!

sandy0225 · 04-10-2008, 08:19 AM

It kind of looks like a regular banana that they've been growing in no light, or maybe what would happen if you grew them under some kind of light they couldn't really use, like black light or something? Has anyone heard of that, or is there no such thing as light that the plants can't use? Just a guess. It really doesn't look healthy.
Could you put one in total darkness most of the time, and then give it just about an hour or two of light a day, like with a grow light and get that kind of result?
I saw some corms that were growing in the basement of the conservatory in the bulb storage area and they were white like that. But the leaves weren't that nice.

jpfloors · 04-10-2008, 09:10 AM

Well sad to say my offer was declined.

Maybe next one I'll get lucky!

Yeah Sandy, I agree with you. I actually was thinking about that after i went to bed last night. I think that probably might be true.. they may give it just enough light to survive, plenty of darkness and warmth to keep the leaves growing white.

Tropicallvr · 04-10-2008, 11:32 AM

A few people have ordered from that Ebay seller, and he seems legitimate.
Other varigated Musa for sale from same seller-

Musa Heliconia Variegated Golden Leaves Banana Rare - eBay (item 110241605129 end time Apr-13-08 16:43:02 PDT)
Musa Heliconia Variegated "Florida" Very Rare Banana - eBay (item 190213385790 end time Apr-13-08 16:43:33 PDT)
Musa Heliconia Variegated "Ta - Nee" Very Rare banana - eBay (item 190213386113 end time Apr-13-08 16:45:35 PDT)
Musa Heliconia Variegated "Num - Wa" Banana Rare - eBay (item 110241605513 end time Apr-13-08 16:45:44 PDT)
Musa Heliconia Variegated "Florida Vol.2" Very Rare - eBay (item 190213386919 end time Apr-13-08 16:50:38 PDT)

bigdog · 04-10-2008, 01:42 PM

I'd be willing to bet that was a pup that was separated very recently from a variegated mother plant. No way does that plant survive on its own for much longer. It probably only got to that size because it was using the energy produced from the mother corm. That's why he wants you to "Please Quick Consider," because in a few short weeks it will be dead!

Bananaman88 · 04-10-2008, 02:16 PM

BigDog- I agree 100% Something with that little chlorophyll would never survive to be that size.

Gabe15 · 04-10-2008, 03:36 PM

Ya, donʻt try to fool yourselves, the same rules apply that you learned back in Mrs. Smiths biology class in 10th grade, plants use green (or red) pigments to produce food for themselves, if there is no color, then it cannot produce food for itself. Since we all know bananas are not parasitic either, and that normal banana plants have color, this one is no good.

I agree with bigdog, it was likely just recently separated and has not been on its own very long. If you grow a plant in less light than it needs it would actually start to become greener (to compensate for the less light, it would make more chlorophyll), to a point, and then it would either die or go dormant, but it would not expend what little energy it had left into the growth of colorless leaves.

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mm4birds mm4birds's Photo Gallery Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 128 BananaBucks : 1,570 Feedback: 4 / 100% Thanks: 3 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts Welcomes: 0	florida white Anybody see this plant for sale on ebay. It has no green pigment at all. How long can it survive? And look at the price for a plant that obviously will burn in any sunlight. Musa Heliconia Variegated "Florida White" Banana Rare - eBay (item 110241605519 end time Apr-13-08 16:45:48 PDT)

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chong Senior Member chong's Photo Gallery Location: Seattle, WA Find me on the map! Zone: 8-9 Name: Chong Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 918 BananaBucks : 6,549 Feedback: 3 / 100% Thanks: 165 Thanked 372 Times in 219 Posts Welcomes: 227	Re: florida white And I'm sure with the lack of sunshine here in Seattle, it'll be a HIT!

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sandy0225 Northern Tropics sandy0225's Photo Gallery Location: Muncie, Indiana Find me on the map! Zone: zone 5 Name: Sandy Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 479 BananaBucks : 7,604 Feedback: 18 / 100% Thanks: 1 Thanked 115 Times in 63 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: florida white It kind of looks like a regular banana that they've been growing in no light, or maybe what would happen if you grew them under some kind of light they couldn't really use, like black light or something? Has anyone heard of that, or is there no such thing as light that the plants can't use? Just a guess. It really doesn't look healthy. Could you put one in total darkness most of the time, and then give it just about an hour or two of light a day, like with a grow light and get that kind of result? I saw some corms that were growing in the basement of the conservatory in the bulb storage area and they were white like that. But the leaves weren't that nice. __________________ Sandy Burrell Northern Tropics Greenhouse 1501 East Fuson Road Muncie, IN 47302 www.northerntropics.com specializing in bananas, heirloom tomatoes and water gardening plants~ check out our new online store at our website!

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Tropicallvr Member Tropicallvr's Photo Gallery Location: Circa Puerto Vallarta Zone: 11 Name: Kyle Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 995 BananaBucks : 14,510 Feedback: 6 / 100% Thanks: 158 Thanked 200 Times in 115 Posts Welcomes: 14	Re: florida white A few people have ordered from that Ebay seller, and he seems legitimate. Other varigated Musa for sale from same seller- Musa Heliconia Variegated Golden Leaves Banana Rare - eBay (item 110241605129 end time Apr-13-08 16:43:02 PDT) Musa Heliconia Variegated "Florida" Very Rare Banana - eBay (item 190213385790 end time Apr-13-08 16:43:33 PDT) Musa Heliconia Variegated "Ta - Nee" Very Rare banana - eBay (item 190213386113 end time Apr-13-08 16:45:35 PDT) Musa Heliconia Variegated "Num - Wa" Banana Rare - eBay (item 110241605513 end time Apr-13-08 16:45:44 PDT) Musa Heliconia Variegated "Florida Vol.2" Very Rare - eBay (item 190213386919 end time Apr-13-08 16:50:38 PDT)

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bigdog Title-less bigdog's Photo Gallery Location: Knoxville, TN Find me on the map! Zone: 7a Name: Frank Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,447 BananaBucks : 13,852 Feedback: 5 / 100% Thanks: 74 Thanked 355 Times in 145 Posts Welcomes: 81	Re: florida white I'd be willing to bet that was a pup that was separated very recently from a variegated mother plant. No way does that plant survive on its own for much longer. It probably only got to that size because it was using the energy produced from the mother corm. That's why he wants you to "Please Quick Consider," because in a few short weeks it will be dead!

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