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Old 08-19-2015, 11:42 AM   #161 (permalink)
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Im done collecting! I dont have yard space anymore!
GB...if space is limited plant some of these 12.


There are about a dozen cultivars that will produce 150 lbs (gross) of fruit per inflorescence in a sub-tropical or near-tropical environment, with about the same gestation period given equal environmental factors.


Wish I grew naners in the subtropics.
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I ordered the same "dwarf Brazilian" from FHN around the same time, and here it is:


Looks very "cavendishy" to me. If Dwarf Brazilians have no winespots at any stage, then for certain, this isn't the real deal....
Dwarf Brazilian and Brazilian can have wine spots on water suckers and TC plants. But this has more of them than I would expect for Dwarf Brazilian.
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GB...if space is limited plant some of these 12.


There are about a dozen cultivars that will produce 150 lbs (gross) of fruit per inflorescence in a sub-tropical or near-tropical environment, with about the same gestation period given equal environmental factors.


Wish I grew naners in the subtropics.
SuperHuge SH3640?
I thought it was just SH3640.
You have pics?
What are the specific differences
with the regular SH3640?
You sure its not just a variation in growing conditions
or a totally different species/variety/mutation/strain of the regular?
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Dwarf Brazilian and Brazilian can have wine spots on water suckers and TC plants. But this has more of them than I would expect for Dwarf Brazilian.
Looks like the same one I have...SD Cavendish.
Good thing I didnt waste, i mean...
good thing I didnt spend valuable yard space,
water, fertilizer and a stainless steel cookware pot on it.

Sounds snobbish ha? Palm culture is the same
when it comes to Washingtonias and Archontophoenix king palms.
They become so common that some
collectors consider them as weeds already!

Thank you for the advice!
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@venturabananas-thanks for the input, very helpful! Good news is, the plant from FHN labeled "goldfinger" doesn't look like the supposed "dwarf brazilian" so it's likely that they didn't send me 3 of the same thing.

Here's the supposed "goldfinger". I'm happy to have read that water sprouts/TC plantlets of the real goldfinger can have small amounts of winespots. Therefore, it's still possible that this plant below is the real deal (although who knows!):


red edging on the petioles:


Greenish P-stem on this supposed "goldfinger"-the one labeled "dwarf Brazilian" seems to have some red coloration to it under the same exact conditions:
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For consolation, the GFinger(FHIA-1) is a half sibbling
with FHIA-18 and SH3640.
They all have Dw Brazilian(Prata Ana) as the mother.

This one is my supposed Brazilian from FHN.
Although it is still small, it has the characteristics...
red border/outline of leaf, red midrib, frosty
and transverse ridges on leaf undersides.
I know eventually the reds diminish as the DB matures.

This might be the real deal also.
I havent researched the photo gallery yet for DBs.

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@goingbananas: it's difficult to find pictures of verified baby TC Dwarf Brazilians online (anyone have a link?) It seems as though wine spots are most prominent on baby TC plants and other water sprouts, and they fade away as the plant gets bigger.
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Blue Java Maybe Namwah Pix Healthy.
Looks like the same problem with Wellspring Nursery also...
The ice cream blue java turning out to be Thai banana namwah!
The pic looks exactly the same as the tc I received from FHN.

Picture taken a month after receiving from FHN.

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Looks like FHN got the manzano correct...
From PRG 9/14


Nearly vertical newly opened
narrow leaf and long (open)petiole...


Another vertical newly opened leaf from a pup...


with red blotches...


my manzano...
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I have done business with Florida hills nursery for many years plants are awesome. I have one new order two mekong giant and two dwarf orinco .you can,t bet the price quality of the banana plants.
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I'm glad you've had good results. I've been reading here and elsewhere about Florida Hill and have never seen a complaint about unhealthy or dying plants. I have seen many complaints about the wrong variety being sent. I don't blame them alone; they buy TCs to resell and thus are at the mercy of their suppliers to a great extent. I do believe they should be speaking up to their suppliers about this situation and perhaps being more careful once plants are received; I've seen no proof that they have acted which is why I don't plan to shop with them.
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Yeah, but the supplier should of change a long time ago.
This tells me that he's to hungry for a good deal rather than quality. Most people wouldn't mind a dollar or two increase if the identification was better than 60% but this guy can't even hit the 30% mark
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Yeah, but the supplier should of change a long time ago.
This tells me that he's to hungry for a good deal rather than quality. Most people wouldn't mind a dollar or two increase if the identification was better than 60% but this guy can't even hit the 30% mark
Okay, I am not blaming any reseller completely. I mentioned before that I worked for a landscaper that propagated plants for clients and tags got switched; my employer bit the bullet and did a full tear out and reinstall at their expense which, though painful financially, was proper. Florida Hill or any supplier should reimburse a buyer if plants sold by them are not the proper variety whether it's their sloppiness or not. Period. And I suspect it's often not. I know of 2 US TC suppliers. (Are there more?) Agristrarts is one. They have been told their stock of Blue Java is wrong and have been offered proper mother plants; to my knowledge they have not accepted the offer. I know there are other mistakes being made which is why I only trust DC plants; they're so darned obviously DCs. The cheap Ice Cream pup I can buy locally is a TC from Agristarts. Fake but cheap is fine sometimes. What ticks me off is that I've chosen to collect bananas which I assumed were very straightforward but they're just as screwed up as common figs which I grew for many years. Sheesh. Trained as an accountant and daughter of a physicist, I crave clarity and non nonsense. I want to grow known edibles. Celery?
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I asked my local lowes for a ice cream and they said they ordered it. I came in weekly and kept getting a excuse for why it wasn't there. Finally the manager told me it was a vendor issue. 2 weeks later lowes had 2 dozen ice cream. I was so excited I bought 3.once I got home ready to plant I noticed the pots said DC but the stupid vendor put ice cream tags on the plants. People will do anything to slip one buy. My guess is to make the original manager happy
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I asked my local lowes for a ice cream and they said they ordered it. I came in weekly and kept getting a excuse for why it wasn't there. Finally the manager told me it was a vendor issue. 2 weeks later lowes had 2 dozen ice cream. I was so excited I bought 3.once I got home ready to plant I noticed the pots said DC but the stupid vendor put ice cream tags on the plants. People will do anything to slip one buy. My guess is to make the original manager happy
I am not seeking an Ice Cream just yet or even a Manini because I'm enjoying getting by collecting free or cheap bananas just now. (Some of my best figs were obtained that way.) But if you want a true Blue Java, contact crazy banana. She lives in CA. Near you? Heck I don't know. But she has the real thing. Most people haven't a clue what they buy as long as the tag says what it is. Fine. Except that's why there's a problem--people sharing the "tagged stuff" with others and thus the confusion is perpetuated. But if you care, buy the real thing from a known source.
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Of the 2 Musa basjoos that were delivered on January 2, one is only 30" tall, while the other is close to 7' with a base diameter of close to 6". What's up with that?!
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I bought a Ice Cream tc 5-6 years ago. I can't remember if it was from Florida Hill or not. It's very clear it is not a Ice Cream. So reading through the pages on the org many say the suppliers send Namwahs instead. Now I am questioning if it is a Namwah. It has fruited once, and only 2 pups. I thought Namwahs pup like crazy. Do Namwahs have a waxey pstem when small. I will get a updated pict of the plant and post on the correct thread.
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I bought a Ice Cream tc 5-6 years ago. I can't remember if it was from Florida Hill or not. It's very clear it is not a Ice Cream. So reading through the pages on the org many say the suppliers send Namwahs instead. Now I am questioning if it is a Namwah. It has fruited once, and only 2 pups. I thought Namwahs pup like crazy. Do Namwahs have a waxey pstem when small. I will get a updated pict of the plant and post on the correct thread.
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O yes! If we didn't have the experts, we would all have a mixed up mess. Ok, shout out time.
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