Snarkie

You also have Mt. Trashmore in Homestead, which I believe is now the highest point in Florida. I seem to remember some elevation at Bok Tower as well. I know Florida isn't perfectly level; I was being facetious. Florida Hill makes about as much sense as Nepal Flats.

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"Nuke my 'nanners, will you?!"

Going Bananas

Manzano
Manzano ?

Based on the manzano threads above,
my manzano tc from FHN might be the real deal!
completely vertical newly emerged long narrow leaf...
fingers crossed!


As a tc, it pushes out 1 leaf a month.
This pic was taken a month ago and another leaf
is halfway up emerging.

jeffaroo

I also bought a Manzano from FHN, very slow grower.
But it looks healthy

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Going Bananas

My exact sentiment.
1 leaf a month so far and a skinny pencil like
trunk that hasnt fattenedned up yet.
The Brazilian I ordered is pushing out the same speed
as well but the leaf is wider.
Heres the Brazillian a month ago.
Well...Im hoping it is anyways.

Going Bananas

Updated photo of the FHN supposedly Brazilian tc.
This photo taken a month after the previous post.
No vertical growth on the pseudostem after producing
3 consecutive leaves all bunched up on the apical growth point.
I was given a confirmed Brazilian pup but that one does not
have wine stain/splotches on the leaves like this one shows.

What do you suppose this is?


8/8/15Update
Roots going through the water drain holes of the 5G pots.
I elevated the pot 2 feet off the ground by stacking pots below it.
My guess the tree liked the root zone heat provided.
So rather than vertical growth, the tree concentrated on bottom
growth explaining the picture above.

venturabananas

No idea, especially given the source. TCs and water suckers of Brazilian can have wine blotches. The slow vertical growth and small leaves is pretty common after experiencing stress of some sort (e.g., shipping).

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meizzwang

I'm so disappointed to hear that various reputable growers here on this forum didn't receive what they ordered from Florida Hill Nursery. I ordered a dwarf brazilian, Goldfinger, and rajah psiang from them very recently and they arrived in great shape, and shipping was ridiculously fast. This great form of customer service hides the reality of what this company is doing, and I'm surprised they haven't been reprimanded for false advertisement....probably because everyone is only spending a couple of bucks, and who is going to stop them?

It's easy to defraud us with banana plants since it'll be a year or two before even an expert can verify the ID's of the banana plants.

Hopefully, the owner of Florida Hill Nursery continues to read this thread and started selling the real deal. Their reputation will catch up to them soon once this thread or other negative reviews show up near the top of google searches. Reputation is everything.

JCA433

Trust is so difficult to earn but so easy to lose. People are going to remember this thread for a long time. He became angry and posted words he probably now regrets.

Going Bananas

Thats the reason why I keep resurrecting this thread
to warn/advice people before they order.
That is also why my ID requests are in this thread.
Like you, I read it after I received the order.
Excellent price and fast delivery if you dont mind
what variety you're getting.

However, no complaints here with their
allocasia and colocasia that Ive ordered.

Happy Growing!

Kat2

When you buy 1st generation TC plants you take a chance that their supplier labeled correctly (and had proper parent stock) and that the reseller didn't mix things up. When you purchase/trade/are gifted pups from folks who have grown plants and either identified them or had someone do so, you're most likely receiving the real deal. I recently bought 2 pups from a nursery going out of business; they were marked. Do I trust them? Not completely...but it's obvious they're Musas.

ETA: Having worked as a landscaper for an operation that maintained their own supply of plants I can tell you that it's very easy for a tag to fall out of a pot then get tucked into the "same pot" (read: one without a tag that's nearby). Installing 200 daylilies of a certain variety one year then having to redo the bed once they'd bloomed because the originals were the wrong color was an expensive lesson.

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Going Bananas

Looks like Fakey Hill Nursery strikes again!
My order of a Mona Lisa turns out to be
a Super Dwarf Cavendish.

Banana.org record, it took a newbie 2months
to ID this one from tissue culture.
Funny, I cant find a taste report on the
dwarf or super dwarf...I wonder why?
Good to know I didnt plant it in a prime spot
on my yard thinking it was a MLisa
nor get a really large pot for it either!

Consolation though...
Im 85% sure the tc of manzano
is correct with the near vertical newly opened
long narrow leaf and eventually long petiole.




We've already determined the FHN version
of the ice cream as namwah.
Not worried about the Brazilian tc I ordered
since I have the real one already from Momoese.

Lau

Baby plants are really hard to identify. I have several I have purchased from them that I'm still waiting for identification. Some of the plants might be real but until they flower they will be known as unknown in my banana garden. Remember just because ice-cream plants are usually tall Namwah doesn't guarantee you got a Tall Namwah plant. The only way you can tell is by the flower on the adult plant. I have purchased two Rhino Horn plants from them different years and the plants look nothing alike.

jeffaroo

Think of Florida Hill the same as buying a lotto ticket. Some times you win , sometimes you don't. But hey....... it's still a nanner

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Going Bananas

Ive been basically a LookyLeu in other members album.
under the search function, you can bring up pictures
from members album depending on the parameters you type.

In another thread on wine blotches,
members said that they are common on genes
with at least a doubleA which includes
FHIA-1,2,17,18, GMichael, Lakatan, manzano,
kluai khai, PCeylon, rajapuri, dbl mahoi, gnain, dw/reg cavendish.
Which was the case on that MLisa with the blotches.

Just type in the parameters in the search
function of the photo gallery or the forum thread.

Im not worried about the fake ice cream since
Momoese provided me with
3 pups of the real namwah,
3 brazilians, 2PKloteks, and 4 fhia-18.
I almost forgot CBananas SH3640.
I know Im going to be bzeeee this time next year separating pups!!
Im done collecting! I dont have yard space anymore!

crazy banana

Just enjoy the beauty of your FH plants, wait and see.
You also have some really good known varieties there to look forward to.
Well, and in regards of separating pups, you have gained some experience last week
Just do not let them get too big.

Going Bananas

CB
Thank you.
My other concern is that I have some naners planted close to young palms.
If I were to trim the mats, I dont want to risk cutting or killing palm roots.
Naner roots arent very deep either.
Can I just cut off the vertical growth of the naner
as opposed to digging them out?
But again if they are sword pups, there really
isnt much roots other than cutting off the
umbilical cord to the mother?

What happens if you cut off the vertical growth
as opposed to digging out the sword pup?

venturabananas

Just recall that many of the plants in those photos aren't identified correctly. I know I've posted some that weren't.

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venturabananas

Sword pups usually have big corms and large root systems.

If you just cut the vertical growth, generally that pup will keep regrowing. If you gouge out the growth point at the top of the corm, it won't, but that can encourage the corm to send out more pups off the sides of the corm.

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meizzwang

I ordered the same "dwarf Brazilian" from FHN around the same time, and here it is:


Looks very "cavendishy" to me. If Dwarf Brazilians have no winespots at any stage, then for certain, this isn't the real deal....

venturabananas

I thinks it's too hard to tell what they are when they're small. You can eliminate some possibilities, but won't really know until you have fruit in hand. For example, I was pretty sure I had a Manzano TC that turned out to be a Pome variety, when I finally tried the fruit.

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