First FHIA 1 Goldfinger (American) bloom

Tytaylor77 · 05-20-2016, 08:33 PM

Spotted my first Goldfinger flower today. Excited about this one. It was a TC plant I received July 16. Planted in the ground on August 2nd. Bloom on May 20th. Not bad.

Botanical_Bryce · 05-20-2016, 08:43 PM

Great timing.

crazy banana · 05-21-2016, 11:07 PM

Congrats.
I second the good timing.

JP · 05-22-2016, 04:29 AM

Contrats!

HMelendez · 05-22-2016, 06:15 AM

Tytaylor77,

Congrats!

Jose263 · 05-22-2016, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytaylor77

Spotted my first Goldfinger flower today. Excited about this one. It was a TC plant I received July 16. Planted in the ground on August 2nd. Bloom on May 20th. Not bad.

I guess it is time to show my ignorance - I have Goldfinger from a pup acquired from a member a 3-4 of years ago - the mat has produced a couple of bunches but never early enough to beat the winter frosts. It is not as cold hardy as Orinoco, or Namwah.

Please help -What is the difference in
FIHA-1 Goldfinger and American Goldfinger??

Tytaylor77 · 05-22-2016, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose263

I guess it is time to show my ignorance - I have Goldfinger from a pup acquired from a member a 3-4 of years ago - the mat has produced a couple of bunches but never early enough to beat the winter frosts. It is not as cold hardy as Orinoco, or Namwah.

Please help -What is the difference in
FIHA-1 Goldfinger and American Goldfinger??

Some experts on here say the TC Goldfinger like mine from agristarts is not the true fhia-1 Goldfinger. They call the TC/agristarts one like mine the fake/American Goldfinger.

What all the differences is I'm not sure. I think the flower has some different traits. Maybe an expert will answer that.

Jose263 · 05-22-2016, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytaylor77

Some experts on here say the TC Goldfinger like mine from agristarts is not the true fhia-1 Goldfinger. They call the TC/agristarts one like mine the fake/American Goldfinger.

What all the differences is I'm not sure. I think the flower has some different traits. Maybe an expert will answer that.

TY - thanks - a familiar story except with different names - i.e. Blue Java and Namwah.
So, for the experts what are the tell tale signs for the real and/or fake Goldfinger? If my mat is true to form it will push a flower in late July or August.

PR-Giants · 05-25-2016, 10:15 AM

This was the likely source for the AS tissue cultures, and the photo below that is an actual FHIA-01 Goldfinger. Both plants are great so growing either one is great.

Look through the org gallery and see if you can find a real Goldfinger growing on the mainland.

USDA-TARS is distributing the actual FHIA-01 Goldfinger.

PR-Giants · 05-25-2016, 10:19 AM

Congrats

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytaylor77

Spotted my first Goldfinger flower today. Excited about this one. It was a TC plant I received July 16. Planted in the ground on August 2nd. Bloom on May 20th. Not bad.

Jose263 · 05-25-2016, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants

This was the likely source for the AS tissue cultures, and the photo below that is an actual FHIA-01 Goldfinger. Both plants are great so growing either one is great.

Look through the org gallery and see if you can find a real Goldfinger growing on the mainland.

USDA-TARS is distributing the actual FHIA-01 Goldfinger.

PR - Thanks - Both pics appear to have blooms shoulder high or lower.. The blooms on my GF are higher 6-7 ft or more. .maybe I have a fake GF I will take photos if it blooms this season

Pancrazio · 05-25-2016, 06:41 PM

Hey, wait, wait, wait.... i got a Goldfinger that i bought from Germany years ago which literally bites the dust every winter. I always tought that sources for bananas in europe was ultimately agristarts. So you are telling me now that that plant i have been talking around so badly may not be the "real" goldfinger?
I have to start over from scratch all my experiments with it?

Tytaylor77 · 05-25-2016, 08:36 PM

This one is right at 7'. Another one I have is 7' 6" or so and just popped it's flag leaf today. Planted same time as this one.

JP · 05-25-2016, 08:49 PM

Congrats!

robguz24 · 05-25-2016, 09:54 PM

I have at least 4, possibly five "not Goldfingers" and they're all different. 2 of them come from the same local tissue culture supplier for most of the nurseries in Hawaii. Plants look similar but one takes a month longer to ripen than the other, flesh color is different, and taste is different. A 3rd from this same supplier is again different than those 2, and all are different (better) than the Agristarts one I got a few years ago. I have a more recent Agristarts one that so far looks quite different than the first one. The "Goldfinger" issue is a mess! Seems like TARS of someone who got one from TARS originally is your best bet.

Tytaylor77 · 05-30-2016, 06:06 PM

10 days later.

And a 2nd Goldfinger blooming a few feet away.

JCA433 · 06-01-2016, 06:30 PM

I see you have propped your Goldfinger bunch. That is crucial because Goldfinger is susceptible to collapse especially in windy locations. The Goldfinger bananas though are excellent quality.

PR-Giants · 06-02-2016, 09:50 AM

Is this the banana you're calling a Goldfinger?

The Goldfinger is a very stout plant and none of the ones I've grown have ever needed to be propped even with their huge bunches.

Can you post a photo of the male bud.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCA433

My goldfinger bunch has collapsed! The fingers have not finished filling in yet.
I now understand this variety MUST be propped!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCA433

I see you have propped your Goldfinger bunch. That is crucial because Goldfinger is susceptible to collapse especially in windy locations. The Goldfinger bananas though are excellent quality.

JCA433 · 06-02-2016, 10:16 AM

Unfortunately I do not have a photo of the bud.

robguz24 · 06-02-2016, 11:45 AM

JCA I've had a couple of my Agristarts "goldfingers" collapse like this, and the p-stems also look too skinny as yours do. Whatever Agristarts shipped me clearly isn't and it's just an ok tasting fruit with much of the taste and texture of a Brazilian, and a very weak plant overall. Fruit filling out has also been a problem.

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