FHIA-17 and Hua Moa - Page 3

merce3 · 05-13-2015, 05:02 PM

how does hua moa compare to ele ele? can they be fried yellow or only green?

Nicolas Naranja · 07-16-2015, 08:48 AM

By far the largest Hua Moa I have ever harvested

Going Bananas · 07-16-2015, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicolas Naranja

So, the plants that I have at my house are starting to flower

FHIA-17

Hua Moa

The alley way between two double rows

I'll try to keep things updated from now until harvest :>

Nick
Looks like you have a nice pad there...hobby & farm & house all in one!
How close or how far apart should those trees be to maximize the sun and aeration betwen trees?

PK looks good as well! Cant wait for mine to get that big & healthy.

Nicolas Naranja · 07-16-2015, 12:39 PM

Double rows, 18' center to center, the double rows are 6' apart and the plants in the row are 7' apart. The double rows are off-set. 691 plants per acre. + = plant - = 6'

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robguz24 · 07-16-2015, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by merce3

how does hua moa compare to ele ele? can they be fried yellow or only green?

Fry them any way you want. Popoulu types like Hua Moa are a bit more starchy than Maoli types like Ele Ele. They also have a more pithy center.

merce3 · 07-16-2015, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by merce3

how does hua moa compare to ele ele? can they be fried yellow or only green?

so i fried up some ripe and unripe ele ele and found them to be good both ways. however, i found it difficult to fry them completely ripe without them beginning to fall apart. i found that the trick is to use them when they are still slightly green and cut them a little bit thicker.

me and my son are tearing them up!

Going Bananas · 07-16-2015, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicolas Naranja

Double rows, 18' center to center, the double rows are 6' apart and the plants in the row are 7' apart. The double rows are off-set. 691 plants per acre. + = plant - = 6'

+----+--
-+-----+
+----+--
-+-----+
+----+--
-+-----+
+----+--
-+-----+
+----+--
-+-----+

TY!
These are all of the same cultivar I imagine...
same height, spread and growing requirements.

You would never intersperse using this pattern with different cultivars?
Just in case I might grow a plantation in the future...

Thanks again!

I also notice you keep the mats clean with 1 main tree
and possibly 1 pup or no pup?

Rmplmnz · 07-28-2015, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by merce3

how does hua moa compare to ele ele? can they be fried yellow or only green?

George,

Hua Moa is the first Banana plant I purchased from Bill Lessard of Going Bananas in 1993.

This topic has been hit on a few threads:

Maya Hawaiian plantains

Hua Moas make the USA ark of food

Hua Moa bunch ready to harvest

platano hawaiano

Plantain/Cooking banana preference

Hawaiian Plantains

More Hua Moa - platano hawaiano

Best Cooking Banana?

Another thread:

Plantain Taste/Quality

Nicolas Naranja · 07-29-2015, 08:14 AM

Actually, I have roughly 30 cultivars in 100 plants. I grouped by height. I have FHIA-1, FHIA-18, Dwarf Brazilian, and SH-3640 in the same row. The main variety was Hua Moa, but they have been torn up by wind and corm weevils, so I am moving to different varieties. The farm as a whole will likely move towards a mixture of FHIA-1, FHIA-17, Williams, Dwarf Namwah, and Dwarf PR Plantain. And yes, I keep the plants that are high density pruned back to Mother+1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Going Bananas

TY!
These are all of the same cultivar I imagine...
same height, spread and growing requirements.

You would never intersperse using this pattern with different cultivars?
Just in case I might grow a plantation in the future...

Thanks again!

I also notice you keep the mats clean with 1 main tree
and possibly 1 pup or no pup?

Going Bananas · 07-29-2015, 10:51 AM

Dr Nick

But why will you narrow the 30 varieties to only 5?
Im sure the 18s, the DB, HM and 3640
are marketable and profitable(quick return on investment).

Thanx!

Nicolas Naranja · 07-29-2015, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Going Bananas

Dr Nick

But why will you narrow the 30 varieties to only 5?
Im sure the 18s, the DB, HM and 3640
are marketable and profitable(quick return on investment).

Thanx!

I will still likely have 30 varieties, but it will probably be one example of each variety instead of what I have now. This will probably be a three year process of pulling out and replanting. Why have a variety in a field that is only going to make me 6 or 7 dollars when I could use that space and have one that makes me $30?

merce3 · 08-01-2015, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robguz24

Fry them any way you want. Popoulu types like Hua Moa are a bit more starchy than Maoli types like Ele Ele. They also have a more pithy center.

thanks. i don't know how i missed your post. they tasted great. i have a small hua moa growing, so we'll see how they compare. i lost my last one to rot during the winter. i will have to protect it better this year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rmplmnz

George,

Hua Moa is the first Banana plant I purchased from Bill Lessard of Going Bananas in 1993.

This topic has been hit on a few threads:

Maya Hawaiian plantains

Hua Moas make the USA ark of food

Hua Moa bunch ready to harvest

platano hawaiano

Plantain/Cooking banana preference

Hawaiian Plantains

More Hua Moa - platano hawaiano

Best Cooking Banana?

Another thread:

Plantain Taste/Quality

thanks chris! your search skills definitely trump mine... i was coming up empty. looks like i have some reading to do.

Rmplmnz · 08-01-2015, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by merce3

thanks. i don't know how i missed your post. they tasted great. i have a small hua moa growing, so we'll see how they compare. i lost my last one to rot during the winter. i will have to protect it better this year.

thanks chris! your search skills definitely trump mine... i was coming up empty. looks like i have some reading to do.

No worries George, you re most welcome my friend!! I have an affinity for Hua Moa. I just sent a pup to Don & Katie Chafin of Going Bananas in Homestead (through another member). They lost their Hua Moas.

lukem5 · 10-22-2015, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicolas Naranja

Anti-disease. I will put a bunch bag on the fruit this week and the spray basically sanitizes the fruit. I haven't spent a lot of time determining the critical step, but I have noticed that when I deflower, spray and bag I have excellent fruit quality. I have deflowered and bagged and still had fungal rot on a few fingers so I figure the spray is pretty important. The two products I am using are certified for organic use.

have you ever found the "critical step" yet? I really think its the spray + bagging combo, but the bagging is most important to protect from insect damage/sun burning.

I wonder how good bunch quality would be with bagging only?

Nicolas Naranja · 10-22-2015, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukem5

have you ever found the "critical step" yet? I really think its the spray + bagging combo, but the bagging is most important to protect from insect damage/sun burning.

I wonder how good bunch quality would be with bagging only?

The sprays are not required

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