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Old 11-24-2012, 01:04 PM   #41 (permalink)
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In my experience, Fe'i can be very difficult to grow. They need perfect conditions to thrive, which seem to be very wet, shady and warm. They are not easy to keep alive in the nursery in pots, often doing fine and then dying suddenly for no obvious reason. Even if growing excellent in the ground, they are very slow plants, often taking 2-3 years to flower for each shoot, and they can be difficult to tissue culture as well. They are also very tropical, requiring more consistent tropical conditions than most other bananas. I have had 4 different fe'i cultivars collected here in Hawaii ('Aiuri, 'Afara, Poti'a, and an unknown one from Kaua'i which looked like a Karat-type) , and am down to 1, all the rest have died. The one I have left is in the greenhouse, but I am afraid to plant is as they are very susceptible to BBTV, I am planning on moving it to a friends property which seems to be BBTV-free for the time being.

It would appear to me that fe'i are not rare in the hobby trade because people don't want to share, but because they are difficult to keep alive. Even here in Hawaii, most of the time they do very poorly, and only in the most perfect conditions do they thrive.
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Karat is not available from our Musa germplasm collection; a number of other Fe’i varieties are though, which you can see here:

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If you would be interested in any of these varieties, you can order them directly online, by clicking the basket icon on the right.
I was looking around on the site but I cannot figure out how much they charge. Does anyone know?
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:43 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I was looking around on the site but I cannot figure out how much they charge. Does anyone know?
The service and materials (plants) are free given you meet the use requirements. There are fees associated with use of the material after you get it, but as best as I can figure out, it is quite difficult to use the material in such a way as to necessitate the payments, so basically there are no fees.

However, it is not intended to be a resource for hobbyists to play around with the plants just for fun, it is intended for research, development and utilization for food security purposes. It is expensive to maintain and send out all of the plants for free, so it is good to respect their use guidelines.
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I think that hobbists plays an important role in conservation.................

Always they are the first to get rare species....................

And Private Collections acts like a Noah Arch.......................

A place where government can get new varieties or species to develop it more deeply............

For now..........I am among the few people...............that have Thousand Fingers here in Brazil.............or maybe I am the only one that have this species.............

Maybe in the future................I can give pups to places like Embrapa............that develops new and desease resistent varieties................for exemple..............

Also hobbists are a giant source of Good and Healthy information.............many of them are almost true scientists...................

My idea is to introduce new varieties here in Brazil.............and Fehi varieties is specially intresting.................due the high levels of vitamins............

Here in my state..............São Paulo state................we have two kind of climates.................

One is Atlantic Forest................along the Mountains................in the Coast..........

But for Fehi.............interior Deciduous Forests seems to be much more intresting......................

The place is similar to harsh condition founded in Micronesia Atolls and Islands...................

Very very hot place....................drier and warmer than Atlantic Forest.................and the seasons are hard to tell apart.................the weather is almost constant......................

I was thinking about the salt content in the soils where Fehi are founded...................???

Also there are places with contents of salt........................and the water alkaline................hard...................due dissolved salts................

Plants like Mangoes..............have huge vegetative growth................in these places..................as well as Bananas.....................

Now I´m studing these articles of Micronesia Islands soils.............

Kosrae Islands............

http://soildatamart.nrcs.usda.gov/Ma...1/0/Kosrae.pdf

Chuuk Islands.............

http://soildatamart.nrcs.usda.gov/Ma...933/0/truk.pdf

Yap Islands.............

http://soildatamart.nrcs.usda.gov/Ma...B934/0/yap.pdf
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Gabe..............my English is very poor............

I was trying to read these Articles......................but I´m not alble to find the exact spot.................that matches Fehi occurrence...................with Soil type..................

If you find this spot...............please tell us.................

I would like to know the exacat soil type.........................but I have difficulties..............

Also I don´t know eaxctly where Fehi is founded.................the name of the localities...................I don´t have these infos..............

I would like to make such study................a list with all kind of Fehi..........and their correspondent soil types.......................

I don´t know if its a relevant kind of information............to keep Fehi alive out side their original range............???

But I think that it´s intresting to know....................
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Tahitian fehi/fe‘i banana (Musa troglodytarum cultivar Poti‘a), Waimea Falls Park, Oahu, April 2012: called mai‘a Polapola in Hawaiian because introduced from Borabora, Tahiti
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I wonder if Yuri ever got one of these...
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Hi Yuri,

yes, my friend Helton from Colecionando Frutas (Angatuba) wants this species, but here I read that this species is difficulty to be cultivated in Angatuba and Lucianópolis.

You are right, that collectors are important to conserve rare species and bananas against extinction, Helton and I are doing this. I am wanting a visa for scientists, the Polícia Federal in Bauru suggested this. But one lawyger told me that this is not possible without study at one university, I only do have secondary school, but very good. I think, it is difficulty to get such visa as one hobby researcher like us here in the forum. But I never give up until I get one permit to stay in Brazil for ever.

I write you one PN.

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