scottdurand

I was doing some reading and came across pictures I took of one of my variegated Super Dwarf Cavendish. I was curious if anyone else has found their own pics on this site? It was pictures that were on my Ginger website.

damaclese

yes thats happened to me i have some close up pictures of some pretty spectacular Ae Ae leafs and i saw them on Eba one time i just told them that the couldn't use them with out permission and they took them down

i felt a bit violated like some one had sneaked in to my home it sucks

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momoese

Jon does use pictures found on the internet but also provides a link to the actual page which is ok in my book.

harveyc

Jon's site is a useful resource and I don't think that description section can be considered a commercial use. Jon ("pitangadiego" here) can have any photo of mine he wants.

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scottdurand

I was just curious about it. I wasn't concerned with having him not use the pics. He has a nice resource listing there.

harveyc

Sorry if I came across otherwise, but I didn't mean to imply there was anything wrong with your post. Jon has been good to me. He even flew up here to bring me some pups two years ago! Well, he did actually have other business in NorCal to take care of and we then had a nice dinner at Joe Real's place. I then visited Jon's jungle last June. He had invited me and my friend to dinner but, unfortunately, I did not see that e-mail in my spam folder until two days after I got back home.

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scottdurand

Thanks Harvey, I understood what you were getting at. I'm glad to see these forums doing so well. I used to post often on GW in the Ginger and Banana section but it's been so quiet the last couple years.

Rmplmnz

I actually had another member email me a craigslist posting selling Sabas in Louisiana and the guy had posted my profile pic (me in my back yard by a large Saba) from Bananas.org

Following is the link:

Banana trees for sale! SOLD!

The guy deleted the picture from the ad after I emailed him and asked if the picture was his yard (he never replied).

Lagniappe

I swear it wasn't me :P

Rmplmnz

Ha ha...hmmnnn.....;-)

Gabe15

There's a photo of mine in the new Agri-Starts catalog, wasn't a big deal to me except that they were using it for the completely wrong species!

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scottdurand

Gabe, did Tim ever surface anywhere? He and I were great friends and had traveled to a few Ginger events together but he simply dropped off the earth around Sep 05.

Gabe15

Never heard from him after that point either. A few weeks ago I was visiting with John Mood and asked him about Tim and got the same story, no one knows.

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scottdurand

Thanks for the update. He and I were in the middle of working on releasing my M velutina X M sumatrana hybrid when the storms came. I heard his Dad went to a university in California so he may have moved with them.

pitangadiego

Scot, et al,

A little history.

I started collecting bananas a long time ago. When the internet came along, I collected everything about bananas, so that I could better understand my own plants. In the course of time, I collected a lot of info, sorted it out by variety, and organized it all so I could find what I wanted (this was way before bananas.org was even a dream). When server space became cheap, I thought it was a waste not share all of the material that I had collected, and do so in a way that others could benefit. Originally none of it was MY material, so I footnoted everything so I could track the sources, and anyone else using the material could view and evaluate all of the original sources.

When I started, there were maybe 100 total banana pictures on the internet. In time, I added pictures from my collection as my contribution to banana knowledge. Eventually my pictures probably comprised 95% of all banana pictures on the internet. Since then, other sites, such as banana.org, have come into being, and allowed many more people to share their pictures, and experiences, which is fabulous. I don't add as much material to webebananas.com as I would like, because I am distracted by my interest in figs, currently. I have hundreds of banana pix that I have taken, just haven't processed them and prepped them for uploading. I finally got my banana "introduction" done last year, after 100 hours or so of preparation. If someone adopts me, I'll have more time for all of these things.

More than half of the sources that I originally collected are now defunct, so much of that info (good or bad) lives on only at webebananas. I have deliberately kept my business enterprise Encanto Farms separate because I do not want it conflicting with the info-only sites, webebananas and figs4fun. And I do not want to use other people's material for my commercial gain and I do not want others to use my material for their commercial gain. I have allowed bananas.org to use my material, and have given it for use by several people doing gardening presentations all across the country, where it is an educational endeavor. Education and sharing was the whole point behind my websites from the beginning. Selling plants, other than locally, is a very new enterprise for me. Most of my banana sales are still done locally because people can come and see full size trees and sample fruit and learn how to grow them (back to the education thing).

So, the bottom line is this, I will gladly remove any material which an owner objects to my using.

Conversely, I have posted a presentation by a fellow in NJ on my fig site because he put together some important and useful info. He sells trees and is to some degree my competition. That's fine. I'll give him a free plug (and maybe lose some business - or maybe get some referrals) because he took the time to help educate people and contribute to the fig community. I have links to several local nurseries on my website because it serves my local community and makes it easy to point people to a source for plants they are looking for. I understand because I am also a consumer of plants, and have been my whole life. I've learned things the hard way, and if I can make someone else's experience easier, I am all for that.

As Harvey said, I did visit UC Davis 2 years ago, and brought an extra suitcase full of bananas for him. I made a few bucks, he saved some bucks, and we both ended up at a common friend's house for a dinner of fine Philippino food, homemade ginger-lemongrass wine and, if you search for it on this site, the first unofficial chapter meeting of the West Coast Chapter of Bananas.org. Those are the kind of communal experiences which make plants growing fun.

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scottdurand

The pics are yours to use, no problem. I just came across it while looking for others besides myself that have the variegated Super Dwarf.

just j

lol u would think they could get that strait since they have to look at bananas every day

Rmplmnz

I would like to add a personal note of thanks to Jon for all of the information he has collected and shared with the internet community!!

Like Jon I have been growing bananas for a very long time...40 or so years, although Chong and Joe Real (and countless others on the board) have me beat. I scoured for information and people to meet with. In 1992 I heard about a patch of Dwarf reds growing at Florida Southern college in Lakeland (against the side of a building to offer protection from inland Florida cold winters) and called and met with an Agricultural Professor and picked his brain. He gave me several nice dwarf Red corms (the only Dwarf reds I have ever acquired) and offered to let me take a glance at the Holy Banana Script Bananas by R. H. Stover , N. W. Simmonds, commonly referred to as the “Simmonds” Book” (which sold for $195 at the time).

Bananas. | Stover, R. H., Simmonds, N. W. | Bananas | Longman Scientific and Technical

In continuing my quest for Banana knowledge I tracked down Bill Lessard and listened to some incredible banana collection stories and purchased his book The Complete Book of Bananas. Additionally, I made many trips to Going Bananas when Lessard owned it and later the Chafins….5 acres over 100 different species (prior to the TC days; not to discredit the TC industry…just a different experience to see row after row of unique bananas growing in big clumps).
The Complete Book of Bananas: W. O. Lessard: Amazon.ca: Books

Then I tracked down the amazing Julia Morton (still full of energy even though she had to be in her late eighties) and purchased her book Fruits of Warm Climates.
On line:
Fruits of Warm Climates

Amazon
Fruits of Warm Climates: Julia F. Morton: Amazon.ca: Books

In 1996 I traveled to Waimea Falls on the North Shore of Oahu and saw the most amazing clumps (too many to count) of Fehi’s with upright racemes of Bronze colored fruit..just rotting on the trees. The pseudostems bled purple juice….
Waimea Arboretum and Botanical Garden at Waimea Falls Park
Waimea Falls Park

Additionally, I had the opportunity to meet with Frankie of Frankie’s nursery on Oahu (an amazing garden) for several hours. Whereas bananas are not his specialty he has significant experience and knowledge related to many tropical fruit trees (avocadoes with three species grafted on one tree).
Frankie's Nursery

When the internet came along I did searches for hours…and came across very little information. How many times have we all seen that one elusive hand of Burmese Blue….that picture has led to sale of many worthless banana plants and the African Rhino horn pic in Lessard’s book that has been pushed all over the world on the internet..really does anyone other than Jarred (thanks Jarred!) have some decent pics of Rhino Horn fruit???

Thankfully I have been able to travel, explore and collect various banana species. I could go on for pages and pages…..but I do not want to bore everyone with stories of all of the trips..lol.

Anyway, I digress…the long and the short of it is I still crave “Banana” information, pictures and stories……Jon get those new pics up and someone else share some banana collection stories (Tog puts us all to shame)!!!

Bananaman88

Chris-thanks for listing those books! Gives me something new to check into!

Jon- a personal note of thanks for allowing me to use some of your wonderful photos for my upcoming presentation on growing bananas. I appreciate it more than I can say and will certainly be sure that your website is featured prominently in the resources section of my presentation. This kind of sharing amongst members and the opportunity to make new friends across the country and world is one of the things that make this such a great site!

Rmplmnz

You are welcome. Unfortunately they are all out of print (tells you the state of banana books). FYI, I purchased Lessard's book new from him for $35.