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Old 06-29-2008, 04:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hi all!
I have a new question;
I would love to grow next year also an edible musa specie here.
I dont know if its possible because we have mild summers, the day temperatures are always between the 18 and 25(64-77F) degrees celcius with a few 30 +, I think 5-10 in a year.
I like musa Ice Cream and Orinoco, can I grow them here?
will they grow fast enough in my climate (like basjoo/velutina)?
and can their p-stems survive a little frost, for example -3 c ? (26F)

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Old 06-29-2008, 02:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I'm in a similar situation WInter-wise, though our Summers are MUCH hotter here in the FLorida Panhandle(we get a couple of Freezes every WInter). I've heard great things about the 'Veinte Cohol' but it's so popular now with enthusiasts that it'll a a couple of yrs for the rest of us;>!
Our local Gardening magazine suggested a method in which you grow them as Biennials. Grow the pups as a single shoot the 1st yr, dig and store over winter then remove all but the apex shoot and plant after Frost is over. Feed and Water generously removing ANY pups that form. According to the article, many varieties should produce the 2nd yr...
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Old 06-29-2008, 02:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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thanks for your reaction.
I think thats more the problem here, our summers are much milder, maybe that it takes there 2 years for a flower but here it takes 4 years for it.
I dont worry really about the winters because I think I have to dig them up, otherwise they will rot away (even sikkemensis can be hard to overwinter outside here.
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Old 06-29-2008, 06:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Daen, Do you overwinter in your home?
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Old 06-29-2008, 06:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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thanks for your reaction.
I think thats more the problem here, our summers are much milder, maybe that it takes there 2 years for a flower but here it takes 4 years for it.
I dont worry really about the winters because I think I have to dig them up, otherwise they will rot away (even sikkemensis can be hard to overwinter outside here.
Keep in mind that different edible banana cultivars have different rates of producing flowers, and among these: different rates of gestation. So, a banana with a 90 day gestation period that is hardy in zone 8 but ends up flowering in September is going to lose its fruit to a zone 8 winter.

Here is a list of edible banana cultivars by reported hardiness ...

USDA Zone 7a:
Texas Star
USDA Zone 7b:
Amistad
Carolina King
Golden Rhinohorn
USDA Zone 8a:
1000 Fingers
Dwarf Orinoco
Orinoco
USDA Zone 8b:
California Gold
Cardaba
Double
Dwarf Brazilian
Dwarf Puerto Rican
Ebun Musak
French Horn
Giant Plantain
Goldfinger
Gran Nain
High Color Mini
Ice Cream
Kalela
Lady Finger
Mahoi
Mauritius
Mona Lisa
Monkey Fingers
Mysore
Pisang Ceylon
Pitogo
Rajapuri
Saba
Joe Real, a home orchard expert in Davis, CA has developed his own cold hardiness rating system based on his experiences, and lists these from most hardy to least hardy:

1. California Gold
2. 1000 Fingers
3. Monkey Fingers
4. Orinoco
5. Brazilian
6. Golden Rhinohorn
7. Dwarf Orinoco
8. Dwarf Brazilian
9. Kalela
10. Mysore
11. Namwa
12. Rajapuri
13. Manzano
14. Ice Cream
15. Goldfinger
16. Dwarf Namwa
16. Misi Luki of Samoa
17. Sweetheart
18. Namwa Pearl
19. Praying Hands
20. Saba
21. Cardaba
22. Williams Hybrid
23. Belle
24. Enano Nautia
24. Golden Beauty
24. Valery
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Good info there, Richard...thanks!
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That's an awsome list, Richard!
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thats great info! thank you.
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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thanks richard, now I know what I can grow here.

@Dean; Yes, i think I'm going to overwinter them at my home;inside.
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Thanks for the list. This will help me know what to buy.
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