dwarf orinco

hammer · 06-03-2016, 04:29 PM

I have a dwarf orinco that is in its second year. It is not allowing the leaves to completely come out before putting out a new one. It is like it is bound up Is there a reason that this is happening?It is about 6 ft tall. Any help is appreciated

Botanical_Bryce · 06-03-2016, 05:17 PM

I have some non orinocos that do that a little when its cold. Other than that I just read about a disease called bunchy top and those plants are no good.

Botanical_Bryce · 06-03-2016, 05:19 PM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_bunchy_top_virus

Worm_Farmer · 06-03-2016, 07:42 PM

It is choking! Usually only Raji Puri does this. It could also be bunching real tight because its about to shoot a flower. Try feeding some Nitro on it, should make it push.

geosulcata · 06-03-2016, 09:53 PM

Some of my bananas had new leaves get stuck/rolled up in the prior leaf after I added used chicken shavings around them. I think it was due to too much nitrogen and improper N-K ratio. Do you have a picture?

hammer · 06-04-2016, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by geosulcata

Some of my bananas had new leaves get stuck/rolled up in the prior leaf after I added used chicken shavings around them. I think it was due to too much nitrogen and improper N-K ratio. Do you have a picture?

I will have pictures soon I've been fertilizering WITH triple 13 heavy Ely it is stacking the leaves on one another I'm going hold back on the fertilizer this plant has never had a pup on is that norm as l thanks for your help.

Kevin2685 · 06-04-2016, 08:08 AM

They do this when they are brought inside for the winter. My dwarf orinico does it more then the rest. My mother plant and all the pups I separated are doing this and now that they are outside they are starting to straighten them selves out. With the mother plant I just tore some of the leaves to open it up more so it don't choke.now I have the newest cigar leaf exposed now and it should start working its way back to normal. I will post some pics later but I would say this is normal if you over wintered them inside. With the orinico I find they like to shed the outer leaf sheaths also and before long you should be getting back to a normal looking plant.

Kevin2685 · 06-04-2016, 08:22 AM

Here is the only picture I have on my phone right now. This one is not as bad as some of the other ones. This one is letting the leaves come out enough to at least unroll. I will take some pictures of the others and my mother plant later tonight if you would like. The ones that don't come out enough to unroll I tear as close to the opening as I can just one tear along the leaf to open it up enough to allow the next one to come up with being blocked.
Maybe there is a better way not sure but that's what I did on my mother plant.

bananaT · 06-04-2016, 06:29 PM

You may actually need MORE fertilizer. Higher in nitrogen.
Those are healthy looking plants, but yes, try a higher nitrogen.

hammer · 06-04-2016, 08:24 PM

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37.667910 · 06-04-2016, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin2685

Here is the only picture I have on my phone right now. This one is not as bad as some of the other ones. This one is letting the leaves come out enough to at least unroll. I will take some pictures of the others and my mother plant later tonight if you would like. The ones that don't come out enough to unroll I tear as close to the opening as I can just one tear along the leaf to open it up enough to allow the next one to come up with being blocked.
Maybe there is a better way not sure but that's what I did on my mother plant.

That pot is way too small. Not sure that's causing the issue, however.

Kevin2685 · 06-04-2016, 09:42 PM

Yeah it's been in the pot too long but made it easy to overwinter and not over water it. It's one of the pups not the mother plant.
Your plant looks better off then mine and it will straighten itself out.
Think it is from the growth rate slowing and now growth rate is increasing.the one big pup attached to the mother has almost adjusted on mine.

a.hulva@coxinet.net · 06-05-2016, 04:33 PM

If you moved outside, that condition is typical occasionally for Orinoco to choke. Not to worry. Just clean up as nessessary.

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