Donetta - Page 13

HMelendez · 10-27-2019, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mari@adams.net

Thanks, I want the mother plants to be able to grow in the Spring....don't know if I am 'over-doing' it, but our winters can be very cold and windy. This worked last year, so hope it works again this winter.

Mari,

I don't think you are "over doing it!"......It worked last year, so it will work this coming winter!....

mari@adams.net · 10-30-2019, 12:41 PM

What would I look for to buy a thermometer that I could insert inside the straw mulch near the hardy banana plants, to tell me on the outside, what that temperature is. Not for sure what to ask for. Someone on this site suggested this. Is it inserted just near the plants or into the soil there.

mari@adams.net · 10-31-2019, 10:54 AM

Would this food 'thingie' work for telling what the temperature is if placed near the Basjoos that I have mulched? (Pushing it through the mulch to the plant)[IMG]

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mari@adams.net · 10-31-2019, 11:30 AM

I am so glad I put the Basjoos to bed last week....rain, sleet, and snow today and in the 20's.[IMG]

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beam2050 · 10-31-2019, 11:34 AM

looks that is a meat thermometer. here is one from home depot, ACURITE
not sure if the probe is water tight tho. maybe put it in a small electrical box with silicone???? 10 ft. sensor chord, 17.90 dollars.

mari@adams.net · 11-02-2019, 04:18 PM

I did find the AcuRite indoor/outdoor thermometer at Lowe's, our Home Depot did not have it. About $20. with tax. [IMG]

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geissene · 11-02-2019, 07:14 PM

Your meter will work fine! You even added some water resistance which is all you need to last for one winter season.

I use this hand held meter pictured below (about $20 also on ebay). It uses thermocouple wire for sensing temperature. The wires come in various lengths and plugs into the meter. This allows me to stick multiple wires outdoors and measure them all with the same meter. The wire is the only part that stays outside. Persimmon shown for reference only....

Now the real question is, will you go outside when the temperature is in the single digits and read your thermometer?? I'm crazy enough to do that

Erik

mari@adams.net · 11-02-2019, 08:50 PM

Yours looks like a good meter, too, I was limited for choice. It is very near my front door so wouldn't be far to go, and I can see the dial/numbers from my front window. If the dial had snow over it, I would have to go outside, which I would probably do. I didn't insert it into the ground, just laid the sensor by the bottom of one of the banana plants. May take something and make a hole in the dirt so it is more into the dirt. There is a 10' cord. 'C' is the sensor. I think I need to compact the straw more as it didn't seem very tight.[IMG]

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cincinnana · 11-16-2019, 10:18 PM

Does it work?

mari@adams.net · 11-16-2019, 10:51 PM

I'm guessing it does. I placed the end of the meter on the ground by the corm and if this temp is right, I'm guessing the corm may be okay (it's under the ground) but the 1 1/2' stump is probably not going to make it come spring. Our low temp did go down to about 9* last week and that temp is holding in the mulched area.....our temp today was about 50* and the meter is still reading 11*. So the mulching is holding the cold temps. Maybe that is good there isn't a lot of fluctuation cause our temps will eventually go back down to single digits soon.[IMG]

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geissene · 11-17-2019, 05:10 AM

Are you sure it is holding the 11F temperature?? I see the word MIN shown on your thermometer display. That usually means it is displaying the lowest temperature measured ..... You probably have a MAX button also.

beam2050 · 11-17-2019, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geissene

Are you sure it is holding the 11F temperature?? I see the word MIN shown on your thermometer display. That usually means it is displaying the lowest temperature measured ..... You probably have a MAX button also.

yeo,

it always pays to read the directions. good eye

mari@adams.net · 11-17-2019, 10:21 AM

Not for sure, will check the directions.

mari@adams.net · 11-17-2019, 11:20 AM

Thanks for pointing that out to me....it seems the corrected temp is 37* this morning under the mulch and tarp. Thinking the plastic tarp is holding the cold temps in, our outside temp now is 45*. [IMG]

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geissene · 11-22-2019, 09:32 PM

Just wanted to add some other information about over wintering bananas. The link below shows how foam insulation can be used to make a banana hut. The designer keeps empty space around the pstems rather than stuffing leaves/straw right up against the pstem. This should reduce mold growth and allow more heat from the ground to travel up the pstem and keep it 'warmer'.

Some year if I have pstems of almost equal size, I'll cover both with a pile of leaves but allow some empty space around the pstem on one of the two.

Something to think about.....

Erik

Link is here:
Permanent banana shelter for winter and spring

mari@adams.net · 11-22-2019, 11:13 PM

Thanks for posting this, I saw it before, but had forgotten about it. I might try something like that next year.

cincinnana · 11-27-2019, 10:13 PM

What is the temp now...??????

Pop off a photo of those ripe Orinoco.

mari@adams.net · 11-27-2019, 10:47 PM

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It is 9:30 p.m. here and the temp inside the straw is 38*. The outside temp is 34*. We had a heavy wind here last night and today with wind gusts up to 50 mph. The wind blew through the straw and pushed the tarp up, (didn't move it much, just blew and floated the tarp up some even with some weights I had placed on top of the tarp. I think the plants got a good airing out.

cincinnana · 12-27-2019, 10:16 PM

You bananas should be about ripe by now .

mari@adams.net · 12-28-2019, 12:27 AM

I only wish they were ripe....seems since I brought them in last fall, they stopped growing. I haven't fertilized them and don't water much. Think they need some warm sun and hot weather which they won't get for another few months. Don't know if they will do anymore than what they've already done.

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10-30-2019, 12:41 PM	#242 (permalink)
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10-31-2019, 10:54 AM	#243 (permalink)
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10-31-2019, 11:30 AM	#244 (permalink)
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11-02-2019, 07:14 PM	#247 (permalink)
geissene Location: Pennsylvania Zone: 6 Name: Erik Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 489 BananaBucks : 98,998 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 301 Times Was Thanked 983 Times in 317 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 16 Times	Re: Donetta Your meter will work fine! You even added some water resistance which is all you need to last for one winter season. I use this hand held meter pictured below (about $20 also on ebay). It uses thermocouple wire for sensing temperature. The wires come in various lengths and plugs into the meter. This allows me to stick multiple wires outdoors and measure them all with the same meter. The wire is the only part that stays outside. Persimmon shown for reference only.... Now the real question is, will you go outside when the temperature is in the single digits and read your thermometer?? I'm crazy enough to do that Erik

11-02-2019, 08:50 PM	#248 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 35,979 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta Yours looks like a good meter, too, I was limited for choice. It is very near my front door so wouldn't be far to go, and I can see the dial/numbers from my front window. If the dial had snow over it, I would have to go outside, which I would probably do. I didn't insert it into the ground, just laid the sensor by the bottom of one of the banana plants. May take something and make a hole in the dirt so it is more into the dirt. There is a 10' cord. 'C' is the sensor. I think I need to compact the straw more as it didn't seem very tight.[IMG][/IMG]

11-16-2019, 10:18 PM	#249 (permalink)
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11-16-2019, 10:51 PM	#250 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 35,979 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta I'm guessing it does. I placed the end of the meter on the ground by the corm and if this temp is right, I'm guessing the corm may be okay (it's under the ground) but the 1 1/2' stump is probably not going to make it come spring. Our low temp did go down to about 9* last week and that temp is holding in the mulched area.....our temp today was about 50* and the meter is still reading 11. So the mulching is holding the cold temps. Maybe that is good there isn't a lot of fluctuation cause our temps will eventually go back down to single digits soon.[IMG][/IMG] Last edited by mari@adams.net : 11-17-2019 at 02:15 AM.*

11-17-2019, 05:10 AM	#251 (permalink)
geissene Location: Pennsylvania Zone: 6 Name: Erik Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 489 BananaBucks : 98,998 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 301 Times Was Thanked 983 Times in 317 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 16 Times	Re: Donetta Are you sure it is holding the 11F temperature?? I see the word MIN shown on your thermometer display. That usually means it is displaying the lowest temperature measured ..... You probably have a MAX button also.

11-17-2019, 10:21 AM	#253 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 35,979 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta Not for sure, will check the directions.

11-17-2019, 11:20 AM	#254 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 35,979 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta Thanks for pointing that out to me....it seems the corrected temp is 37* this morning under the mulch and tarp. Thinking the plastic tarp is holding the cold temps in, our outside temp now is 45*. [IMG] [/IMG]

11-22-2019, 09:32 PM	#255 (permalink)
geissene Location: Pennsylvania Zone: 6 Name: Erik Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 489 BananaBucks : 98,998 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 301 Times Was Thanked 983 Times in 317 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 16 Times	Re: Donetta Just wanted to add some other information about over wintering bananas. The link below shows how foam insulation can be used to make a banana hut. The designer keeps empty space around the pstems rather than stuffing leaves/straw right up against the pstem. This should reduce mold growth and allow more heat from the ground to travel up the pstem and keep it 'warmer'. Some year if I have pstems of almost equal size, I'll cover both with a pile of leaves but allow some empty space around the pstem on one of the two. Something to think about..... Erik Link is here: Permanent banana shelter for winter and spring

11-22-2019, 11:13 PM	#256 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 35,979 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta Thanks for posting this, I saw it before, but had forgotten about it. I might try something like that next year.

11-27-2019, 10:13 PM	#257 (permalink)
cincinnana container grower Location: Southwest Ohio U.S.A.🇺🇸 Find me on the map! Zone: HZ 6/5 Microclimate - Elevation 750 feet- 228.60 meters Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 8,782 BananaBucks : 385 Feedback: 7 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,865 Times Was Thanked 11,701 Times in 4,870 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,943 Times	Re: Donetta What is the temp now...?????? Pop off a photo of those ripe Orinoco. __________________ Cincinnana/Hostafarians Photo Gallery 🌴 Last edited by cincinnana : 11-27-2019 at 10:22 PM.

11-27-2019, 10:47 PM	#258 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 35,979 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta [IMG][/IMG] It is 9:30 p.m. here and the temp inside the straw is 38. The outside temp is 34. We had a heavy wind here last night and today with wind gusts up to 50 mph. The wind blew through the straw and pushed the tarp up, (didn't move it much, just blew and floated the tarp up some even with some weights I had placed on top of the tarp. I think the plants got a good airing out.

12-27-2019, 10:16 PM	#259 (permalink)
cincinnana container grower Location: Southwest Ohio U.S.A.🇺🇸 Find me on the map! Zone: HZ 6/5 Microclimate - Elevation 750 feet- 228.60 meters Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 8,782 BananaBucks : 385 Feedback: 7 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,865 Times Was Thanked 11,701 Times in 4,870 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,943 Times	Re: Donetta You bananas should be about ripe by now . __________________ Cincinnana/Hostafarians Photo Gallery 🌴

12-28-2019, 12:27 AM	#260 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 35,979 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta I only wish they were ripe....seems since I brought them in last fall, they stopped growing. I haven't fertilized them and don't water much. Think they need some warm sun and hot weather which they won't get for another few months. Don't know if they will do anymore than what they've already done. [IMG][/IMG]

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