Donetta - Page 6

mari@adams.net · 10-16-2018, 03:48 PM

Thanks for the replies and advice....I will try and add some cardboard as you said. Our weather here is so up-and-down, you never know when it will go to freeze and stay there. I was 'iffy' as to whether to go ahead and get them prepared for winter now, but will find out next year if I did wrong. They looked pretty bad today after the freeze last night. Not for sure about putting the stems away wet and bleeding moisture.

mari@adams.net · 10-18-2018, 07:15 PM

I have 4 bales of straw on these basjoos plants, plus their tops when cut off and some pine mulch. A 2-layer (folded a big one) tarp placed over all this to keep it dry. Can lift it and add mulched leaves after they fall. We are still in the 50's-60 during the day but down to 29* at night. Have I mulched too much now with the temps as they are? Looks like another week of 50-60's with low night temps.[IMG]

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geissene · 10-18-2018, 07:38 PM

This looks totally fine. Great job! There is no need to worry about a few days when the temperature reaches 50 to 60F. Let it stay like that until early April. Then you can lift it to take a peek.

mari@adams.net · 12-11-2018, 11:53 PM

Some time ago, someone posted a remark about a banana plant that would be best for northerners to grow that would produce bloom in less time than other banana plants. I can't recall what it was. I'm sure it was a dwarf, I do have dwarf cavendish, but that wasn't what was suggested. Seems like it was said that it would produce bloom in 9-12 months. Does anyone know what it might be?

beam2050 · 12-12-2018, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mari@adams.net

Some time ago, someone posted a remark about a banana plant that would be best for northerners to grow that would produce bloom in less time than other banana plants. I can't recall what it was. I'm sure it was a dwarf, I do have dwarf cavendish, but that wasn't what was suggested. Seems like it was said that it would produce bloom in 9-12 months. Does anyone know what it might be?

might be viente cohol or raja puri.

mari@adams.net · 12-12-2018, 09:41 PM

Thanks, I'm thinking raja puri is the one.

Richard · 12-12-2018, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mari@adams.net

... Seems like it was said that it would produce bloom in 9-12 months. Does anyone know what it might be?

Keep in mind that USDA Cold Hardiness zone 10 is considered northern for fruiting bananas.

Every banana I've grown in zone 9 has produced a bloom in 9-12 months. But after the bloom comes a 3-6 month ripening period -- the duration depending on the season the bloom occurred.

cincinnana · 12-15-2018, 09:31 PM

Expect a 2-5 year grow cycle for a flower in that zone.

geissene · 01-22-2019, 09:00 PM

They look great! Snow keeps the wind off and acts like an insulator. It is probably warmer under all the snow!

If you are ever curious, next year you can place a temperature probe (thermocouple) in the middle of your basjoo patch. Wrap it around a pstem and run the wires outside the mulch pile so you can read the temperature under your mulch pile on days like today.

The handheld meters are under 20 dollars on ebay....

Erik

mari@adams.net · 01-23-2019, 12:25 AM

Thanks for the info, I'll see if I can find one....would be interesting to know what the temp is under all the mulch, tarp, and snow.

cincinnana · 01-25-2019, 07:07 PM

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Thanks for the info, I'll see if I can find one....would be interesting to know what the temp is under all the mulch, tarp, and snow.

There are a few threads which discuss this.

r values of soil and such.

If you cannot find the info here do an internet search

With keywords...... r value of dirt.

It is amazing to see how a small snow cover can protect your plants

cincinnana · 01-25-2019, 07:08 PM

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We recently had about 14" of snow (more than we've had in many years) which a lot has already melted off, but getting ready for more rain, sleet, and snow. Hoping the hardy basjoos are okay under their blanket of snow. Getting ready to have below 0* nite temps. [IMG]

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Snug as a bug......

mari@adams.net · 03-21-2019, 11:36 AM

The snow is gone and spring is finally here in Illinois. Our daytime temps are between 50-60* and low temps 30-40's*. Should I start uncovering (tarp) ---mulch on the hardy banana plants. Do I remove it gradually or all at once? Our spring was late in arriving and starting to warm up fairly fast. Thanks for any advice.

mari@adams.net · 03-29-2019, 09:11 PM

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I have taken off the tarp and mulch on the Basjoos. Our temps have been near 70* and nights 45+. After cutting back the mushy top, I assume they will push out of the center of the cut. We are now having rain and a couple days of cooler temps. Don't know for sure if I should put the tarp back on.

mari@adams.net · 03-29-2019, 09:18 PM

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Having a bad hair day....actually what was cut off the Basjoos.

mari@adams.net · 04-21-2019, 11:07 PM

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The basjoos hardy banana plant lived through the winter (with lots of mulch) but the mother plant looks like it didn't. I could have uncovered them too soon. Is it normal for the mother not to make it through winters here in Illinois? Our temps are now in the 70-80's* (days) range and nights in the 50's*.

cincinnana · 04-24-2019, 03:56 AM

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The basjoos hardy banana plant lived through the winter (with lots of mulch) but the mother plant looks like it didn't. I could have uncovered them too soon. Is it normal for the mother not to make it through winters here in Illinois? Our temps are now in the 70-80's* (days) range and nights in the 50's*.

Looks good and perfectly normal for that plant.
Many times pups are first to emerge followed by the main plant a few weeks later.

Now is the time to divide and separate the pups if you wish.
Feed the beasts too!!

mari@adams.net · 04-24-2019, 07:50 AM

I have feed them with some 13-13-13 granular fertilizer, don't know if I used enough, though....when they get leaves, I will spray them with a liquid fertilizer. How many pups do I leave....know there will probably be more coming. Was happy they made it through the winter here.

mari@adams.net · 05-17-2019, 11:03 PM

The Musa Basjoos are doing great here in Illinois. They made it through the winter okay. Not for sure what to do with so many pups coming on mother plant....if I divide them now at the shown size, do you think I will get enough root or should I wait until they get bigger. Lots of pups here I don't need, but could pot them up and eventually share them or sell them.[IMG]

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cincinnana · 05-20-2019, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mari@adams.net

The Musa Basjoos are doing great here in Illinois. They made it through the winter okay. Not for sure what to do with so many pups coming on mother plant....if I divide them now at the shown size, do you think I will get enough root or should I wait until they get bigger. Lots of pups here I don't need, but could pot them up and eventually share them or sell them.[IMG]

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Looking great.

They look nice in the pine straw.

10-16-2018, 03:48 PM	#101 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 36,012 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta Thanks for the replies and advice....I will try and add some cardboard as you said. Our weather here is so up-and-down, you never know when it will go to freeze and stay there. I was 'iffy' as to whether to go ahead and get them prepared for winter now, but will find out next year if I did wrong. They looked pretty bad today after the freeze last night. Not for sure about putting the stems away wet and bleeding moisture.

10-18-2018, 07:15 PM	#102 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 36,012 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta I have 4 bales of straw on these basjoos plants, plus their tops when cut off and some pine mulch. A 2-layer (folded a big one) tarp placed over all this to keep it dry. Can lift it and add mulched leaves after they fall. We are still in the 50's-60 during the day but down to 29* at night. Have I mulched too much now with the temps as they are? Looks like another week of 50-60's with low night temps.[IMG][/IMG]

10-18-2018, 07:38 PM	#103 (permalink)
geissene Location: Pennsylvania Zone: 6 Name: Erik Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 489 BananaBucks : 99,093 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 301 Times Was Thanked 983 Times in 317 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 16 Times	Re: Donetta This looks totally fine. Great job! There is no need to worry about a few days when the temperature reaches 50 to 60F. Let it stay like that until early April. Then you can lift it to take a peek.

12-11-2018, 11:53 PM	#104 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 36,012 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta Some time ago, someone posted a remark about a banana plant that would be best for northerners to grow that would produce bloom in less time than other banana plants. I can't recall what it was. I'm sure it was a dwarf, I do have dwarf cavendish, but that wasn't what was suggested. Seems like it was said that it would produce bloom in 9-12 months. Does anyone know what it might be?

12-12-2018, 09:41 PM	#106 (permalink)
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12-15-2018, 09:31 PM	#108 (permalink)
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01-22-2019, 09:00 PM	#109 (permalink)
geissene Location: Pennsylvania Zone: 6 Name: Erik Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 489 BananaBucks : 99,093 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 301 Times Was Thanked 983 Times in 317 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 16 Times	Re: Donetta They look great! Snow keeps the wind off and acts like an insulator. It is probably warmer under all the snow! If you are ever curious, next year you can place a temperature probe (thermocouple) in the middle of your basjoo patch. Wrap it around a pstem and run the wires outside the mulch pile so you can read the temperature under your mulch pile on days like today. The handheld meters are under 20 dollars on ebay.... Erik

01-23-2019, 12:25 AM	#110 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 36,012 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta Thanks for the info, I'll see if I can find one....would be interesting to know what the temp is under all the mulch, tarp, and snow.

03-21-2019, 11:36 AM	#113 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 36,012 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta The snow is gone and spring is finally here in Illinois. Our daytime temps are between 50-60* and low temps 30-40's*. Should I start uncovering (tarp) ---mulch on the hardy banana plants. Do I remove it gradually or all at once? Our spring was late in arriving and starting to warm up fairly fast. Thanks for any advice.

03-29-2019, 09:11 PM	#114 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 36,012 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta [IMG][/IMG] I have taken off the tarp and mulch on the Basjoos. Our temps have been near 70* and nights 45+. After cutting back the mushy top, I assume they will push out of the center of the cut. We are now having rain and a couple days of cooler temps. Don't know for sure if I should put the tarp back on.

03-29-2019, 09:18 PM	#115 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 36,012 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta [IMG][/IMG] Having a bad hair day....actually what was cut off the Basjoos.

04-21-2019, 11:07 PM	#116 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 36,012 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta [IMG][/IMG] The basjoos hardy banana plant lived through the winter (with lots of mulch) but the mother plant looks like it didn't. I could have uncovered them too soon. Is it normal for the mother not to make it through winters here in Illinois? Our temps are now in the 70-80's* (days) range and nights in the 50's*.

04-24-2019, 07:50 AM	#118 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 36,012 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta I have feed them with some 13-13-13 granular fertilizer, don't know if I used enough, though....when they get leaves, I will spray them with a liquid fertilizer. How many pups do I leave....know there will probably be more coming. Was happy they made it through the winter here.

05-17-2019, 11:03 PM	#119 (permalink)
mari@adams.net Location: Illinois USA Zone: 6 Name: mari Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 339 BananaBucks : 36,012 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 452 Times Was Thanked 575 Times in 211 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: Donetta The Musa Basjoos are doing great here in Illinois. They made it through the winter okay. Not for sure what to do with so many pups coming on mother plant....if I divide them now at the shown size, do you think I will get enough root or should I wait until they get bigger. Lots of pups here I don't need, but could pot them up and eventually share them or sell them.[IMG][/IMG]

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