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Old 09-21-2018, 05:30 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Since the plants stop growing when temps get 50*, does that mean that when the days are approx. in the 60's& 70's daytime they will still grow, and the nights 50* or below, they stop growing at night? When the temp hits 50*, does all growth stop?
When most fruiting bananas experience sustained (6+ hours) of temperatures in the lower 50's (F) they go into shock that can take days to recover. When they experience sustained temperatures in the lower 40's it can take months to recover -- as it does at my location.
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:02 PM   #62 (permalink)
 
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So even though the days might get into the 70*'s, the plants don't respond to the 70's temp? I don't intend for them to be out when the temps are in the 40's-50's as I don't want to be, but this week our temps are in the 70's and nighttime temps in the low 50's and maybe high 40's. I will get the nonhardy ones in before the day temps get very cold, but I have some hardy ones (Musa Basjoo) that are too big to bring in so want to try and leave them out (mulched) this year. I have potted backups if I lose the outside ones. I think I wait (the outside ones) till a frost nips their leaves before mulching? The inside ones will go mostly dormant this winter in the basement as they did last winter. I'm in Illinois and our first risk of frost is Oct. 20 and almost certainly by Nov. 5. So, hopefully, I have a month before frost on the hardy ones.
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I saw a video of someone preparing plants for winter and they used a 'sheath' cloth on the ground around the plants before putting in the mulch. I assume it is to keep that area of the ground as dry as possible after mulching. What is a 'sheath' cloth?..........Would that be some kind of plastic?.......Such as a plastic tarp?........
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Can anyone tell me what kind of banana plant these small bananas come from? I found them at a local Walmart store with a sticker that had Dole Guatemala Baby #4234 on it. They are about 3 1/2" long with a custard taste.[IMG][url=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?[/IMG]
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Can anyone tell me what kind of banana plant these small bananas come from? I found them at a local Walmart store with a sticker that had Dole Guatemala Baby #4234 on it. They are about 3 1/2" long with a custard taste.[IMG][url=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?[/IMG]
"Baby" is a produce grade of banana, not a specific cultivar. Even if you were to narrow it down to a cultivar, there is no guarantee you could grow it in your climate.

Good to know that you like the custard texture and taste. There are Musas you can grow to give you the same satisfaction. Check with the usual suspects (TyTaylor, HMelendez, ...) to find out.
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Thanks for your reply...I do like the custard texture. I wonder if they would be good to grill as I do plantains. Like to grill plantains then put a little bit of brown sugar/vinegar/butter glaze on them just before taking off the grill. I have seen these little bananas in my area, but not very often. They are a treat when I find them.
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Our temperatures here will be in the 70-80's (lows to 50) for another 10 days then will dip to the 60's with possible lows to 30's. Do I wait until a frost knocks down the leaves of the Musa Basjoos before starting to cut back and mulch the plants? I have read a lot of the posts in the "hardy plants" section, but this is the first year I have attempted to leave any of the plants in the ground for the winter. Any suggestions on overwintering the plants outside will greatly help. Can you cut back and mulch these plants too soon?
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... Can you cut back and mulch these plants too soon?
Months too soon, yes. A couple weeks, no.
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Thanks for your reply.....Hummm, so I need to wait until it is 'really cold' before mulching, etc. I have 4 non-hardy ones to dig and quite a few potted non-hardy to bring in before winter. Should I start removing some of the leaves now or wait until time to bring them in. Is Neem oil okay to spray the stem and leaves? When do I stop fertilizing and watering.

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I'd do it all now instead of risk an early frost.
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Is the bunching at the top a problem with this Dwarf Cavendish plant? Does it need fertilizing to make the leaves grow up and out? It is time to bring it in here so haven't been fertilizing.[IMG][/IMG]
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I am starting to dig up non-hardy (dwarf cavendish) plants for storage in the basement in pots with potting soil over the roots. One has a large pup attached to mother. What are the pros & cons of keeping pup attached to mother. This is heavy so would be easier for me to handle to separate, but want to do what's best for mother & child.
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I am starting to dig up non-hardy (dwarf cavendish) plants for storage in the basement in pots with potting soil over the roots. One has a large pup attached to mother. What are the pros & cons of keeping pup attached to mother. This is heavy so would be easier for me to handle to separate, but want to do what's best for mother & child.

Great looking plants..

There are so many great opinions just pick and chose what works for you.

For me, I just use a large sharp knife to separate the two and then repot the plants next spring.
This way you have two separate plants in the same container .

Also, I never wash the soil off my plants before I transplant or repot .
A plant does much better and recovers quicker when the roots are not disturbed.

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Thanks for your reply...this is the first year I have had to dig up plants, last year they were in pots. These are very heavy (dragged them into the basement on a tarp and put them into a pot with potting soil over the corm & roots. They are very wet stems. (Rain for several days) I read somewhere to wash or shake soil off (too wet to shake off) when dug up. Why not wash the soil off? These plants will go dormant in the basement. Don't want them to rot. I was able to keep the pup attached to mother. Is it better to keep it attached or to separate it? Thanks for any advice as I don't really know what I am doing.
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I didn't really put enough soil in the pot to call it 'repotting'. Should I go ahead and repot these now with more soil? I just added enough soil to cover the corm and root. They will get some light from a window and overhead lighting but not all the time.
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I didn't really put enough soil in the pot to call it 'repotting'. Should I go ahead and repot these now with more soil? I just added enough soil to cover the corm and root. They will get some light from a window and overhead lighting but not all the time.
Stick with your original plan it's a good one.
Many forum members do the same thing(store bare root) for the winter with good predictable results.

I forgot your plants were in the ground and not in pots.
Pots can get kinda heavy too.

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That's why I put some of them in the ground this year ..cause the pots were too heavy for me to handle, but now that they have grown larger, just the corm/stem is very heavy without pot and dirt. One person here that has plants, pulls hers up and stores them bare root lying down on her basement floor. But she lost a lot of hers last year because they rotted. I do have some more in pots but they are going to be a challenge to get in because of weight. I envy everyone that can leave their plants out for winter, but that is the problem with people trying to grow plants out of their zone.
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When do I mulch the Musa Basjoos for winter? Have read, read, read posts and still not for sure. Our weather here for a couple days will be in high 80's/60low, then Thurs. turns cold...Friday morning 38*. We have had a LOT of rain so know the ground is very wet. If mulch this weekend, will they rot with ground being so wet. Our highs are going in the 50-60 soon, lows 30's-40. We are up/down in temps. More rain forecasted. No leaves fallen yet for mulch, but can get straw. The Basjoos are on the left (2) and Dwarf Cavendish one on right. Caven. to be dug later today.
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