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Old 12-14-2013, 04:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default The cold hardiness of Veinte Cohol

Hello Veinte Cohol Fans!

I am very much interested in collecting Veinte Cohol.
Almost every thing is clear so far except its cold hardiness.

I live in a place arond 9a/b and I intend to grow it in the ground
and overwinter it also in the ground within a considerable rate of
degradation on the plant.
So the cold hardiness is an important factor that I never can neglect.

So can anybody answer me about its hardiness?

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Old 12-14-2013, 05:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I hear it's very cold sensitive, probably on par with the Cavendish or Red varieties. I haven't grown it myself so I can't say for sure. I have tried the fruit, and they weren't particularly impressive either. It could have just been because they came off of a very sad plant and were the size of large marbles.
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I am very much interested in collecting Veinte Cohol.
Almost every thing is clear so far except its cold hardiness.
So can anybody answer me about its hardiness?
It lacks cold hardiness all together.. Plain & Simple. :^)
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Hello Veinte Cohol Fans!

I am very much interested in collecting Veinte Cohol.
Almost every thing is clear so far except its cold hardiness.

So can anybody answer me about its hardiness?
I currently have two of them, both under two years old, and in containers.
I obtained them from a members plant in southern Florida.
I do not have too much observation time.
But this is what I know so far.
It is compact fast grower and fills the container with roots pretty quick.
I just checked mine in the basement storage area and one seems to be doing fine while the other one might be suffering alittle more.
They endured cool October nights of 39 degrees and up.
Currently they are kept in a dim 65 degree basement, along with other banana buddies.
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Let me count the ways that I tried to kill this one.. Pic taken 111013

1st tires were low when trying to put this one up and rolled off my small dolly down the stairs.. I still had 6 inches of stem when I re-potted it and it started to grow from center.. I put the plant in the shop next to a heater and that's when the 22F came along. I didn't have a sensor out there so I can't tell you how cold it got but it rotted in place..
My other large pup in my banana storage looks like crap (of course it's near a wall & window), and its 59F currently.. Hopefully I can keep the stem intact on that one.. That would give me a shot @ fruiting 2 next year.. :^)
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Thanks Migael, what size stem is needed to start with in order to get fruit in the same year?


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Let me count the ways that I tried to kill this one.. Pic taken 111013

1st tires were low when trying to put this one up and rolled off my small dolly down the stairs.. I still had 6 inches of stem when I re-potted it and it started to grow from center.. I put the plant in the shop next to a heater and that's when the 22F came along. I didn't have a sensor out there so I can't tell you how cold it got but it rotted in place..
My other large pup in my banana storage looks like crap (of course it's near a wall & window), and its 59F currently.. Hopefully I can keep the stem intact on that one.. That would give me a shot @ fruiting 2 next year.. :^)
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Thanks Migael, what size stem is needed to start with in order to get fruit in the same year?
Good Q? Keith.. :^)

If you have one like in the pic in the fall in these parts the next growing season no problem, roughly 3', but less than 4'.. Up here where things slow down its best to have time for plant to strengthen before it flowers thus getting the most out of production and for what you put into it.. :^)
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Mine came to me in The middle of the summer a 12" and medium stem thickness. Logees shipped it in perfect shape. Put it in te greenhouse a couple weeks ago. It handed a few 39-35 temps fine. It's 4ft and very thick p-stem. So it grew quick even being in partial shade.
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The importance of Viente Cohol to folks in colder zones is its short cycle. Not cold tolerance. Short cycle time will get you harvestable fruit in one season so cold is a never mind.

U of Ga has been pushing the VC for a while.

Need to plant 3 to 4 ft tall pups when danger of frost is past and you should harvest before first cold snaps in Oct. This is the scenario for south central and coastal GA.

The VC is not cold hardy at all. It doesn't have to be for GA like zones as I just pointed out.

Another way of saying this is ---- if you live where summer temps average high 60s low 70s you got no business growing bananas. Don't be a banana head --- grow what works!!!!

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So were do you get 3 to 4 ft. pups ? Do you have someone in Florida raise them for you ?
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[quote=bananimal;235945]The importance of Viente Cohol to folks in colder zones is its short cycle. Not cold tolerance. Short cycle time will get you harvestable fruit in one season so cold is a never mind.

Fingers crossed for next season, mine are about four feet tall.
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The importance of Viente Cohol to folks in colder zones is its short cycle. Not cold tolerance. Short cycle time will get you harvestable fruit in one season so cold is a never mind.

Fingers crossed for next season, mine are about four feet tall.
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So were do you get 3 to 4 ft. pups ? Do you have someone in Florida raise them for you ?
Yeah --- me.

A club member gave me his whole mat. Have been giving VC pups away as freebies with regular orders.

Splitted the mat and have 2 now. Next year lots of pups and 2 bunches of fruit.

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if you live where summer temps average high 60s low 70s you got no business growing bananas. Don't be a banana head --- grow what works!!!!
Sounds a lot like my summers. I guess I should stop growing bananas.
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Sounds a lot like my summers. I guess I should stop growing bananas.
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That is a cold summer!
Well, compared to Alabama, where my sister lives, too, it sure is. But I have no complaints with high 60's to low 70's all summer long, even if my bananas grow slowly. They eventually make tasty fruit for me, even if they test my patience. They payoff is winter is warm relative to AL.
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Well, compared to Alabama, where my sister lives, too, it sure is. But I have no complaints with high 60's to low 70's all summer long, even if my bananas grow slowly. They eventually make tasty fruit for me, even if they test my patience. They payoff is winter is warm relative to AL.
Yeah your winter lows are usually milder than ours. I like my heat.
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Sounds a lot like my summers. I guess I should stop growing bananas.
I was going to say the same thing.
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My VH is in a pot and about 2-3' tall. It has been growing very slowly for me. Maybe there is not enough heat in coastal SoCal for it. It spent the past two weeks outside with lows around 40, seemingly without problems. I did bring it into my garage for two nights when it got into the upper 30's. It is back outside now and seems fine.
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