Choking?

sean · 07-31-2006, 07:35 PM

In reading through the site, I assume that when a new leaf begins to appear before the previous leaf has fully extended that it is called choking?

If that is the case, then my double mahoi is doing that. Should I assume that it's a function of too much fertilizer along with an excess of water?

Should I rescue the leaf to ensure that it is able to extend properly?

Thank you in advance!

Sean

momoese · 07-31-2006, 07:46 PM

I have had a few plants do that but they worked it out on their own and normalized in time.

I think the term choking is used mostly for describing the condition of the flower bud getting stuck in the p-stem?

pitangadiego · 07-31-2006, 09:37 PM

Choking refers to the flower opening and producing hands of bananas before it exits the p-stem normally. Sometimes they are sort of at the top of the p-stem, facing up (instead of hanging down), sometimes inside the stem, and sometimes they will break out through the side of the stem. Raja Puri is known for this behavior.

Westwood · 08-01-2006, 02:38 AM

So what do we Do in this Case ?
I mean if its inside the stem ..
Do we cut the rest of the stem above the Flower ?

Just currious it hasnt happened to me Yet but just in case ..Tammy

PaulOdin · 08-01-2006, 09:27 AM

Once a pseudostem produces fruit, it is done. It will quickly dry up, and I cut them down as soon as this starts happening. Since there is no longer a reason to protect the stem, anything you can do to allow the fruit to develop makes sense. It hasn't happened to me yet, but I'd free the blossom/fruit and try to leave as much stalk and foliage as possible for support.

Paul

tropicalkid · 08-07-2006, 09:45 AM

I have Double mahois over at my parents home and when I brought the plant home from a previous two-headed plant, so I was sure I was going to get double heads(second gen.), I remember it showed a bit of "choking", but remember, it's two heads trying to make its way up.

Carlos

MediaHound · 04-18-2007, 02:53 PM

Choking in the wiki:
http://www.bananas.org/wiki/Info:Choking

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