can you give a banana to much potassium - Page 2

momoese · 11-30-2022, 01:00 AM

I grow 100% organic so have never had an issue over fertilizing with anything.

PR-Giants · 12-03-2022, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by beam2050

for the last 2 years i quit fertilizing my bananas to find out if i was spending too much money on fertilizers. i found out i wasn't. it makes them more cold hardy, and makes them pup more and so on. i lost a lot of bananas by not fertilizing.

so has anybody been pouring on the potassium to see what happens?

certain varieties?

Using man-made fertilizers is convenient but using organic yard waste is much less expensive and produces larger bunches in less time.

Never added man-made potassium supplements to the fields and highly doubt that we're producing Potassium-Lite banana fruit.

blownz281 · 12-03-2022, 10:29 AM

I would love to use more organic yard waste. But we live by a woods and if to much debris are laying around roaches will be around in the yard.I don’t want them around the house and also spray all around to keep them away. I do use mulch and 10-10-10. Which is recommended or something similar for my yard as had soil tests done at a lab here. Was using banana fuel blue powder by in this yard it didn’t due anything. Years ago in another place it worked good but yard was built on a swampy lot though.

beam2050 · 12-03-2022, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants

Using man-made fertilizers is convenient but using organic yard waste is much less expensive and produces larger bunches in less time.

Never added man-made potassium supplements to the fields and highly doubt that we're producing Potassium-Lite banana fruit.

your familia with the jacksonville area i believe, anyways i am sitting on 15ft. of the nice yellow sand that the state of florida makes everybody use for their septic pads because it is so well draining. doesn't hold compost or granulated fertilizers either.

i was not explicit with this thread, but i was attempting to see if anybody posting was doing what i have been doing. i have burning wood and such in the hole and not sprinkling ash on top. i inadvertently came across this path 4 years ago. ash holds moisture up if done properly, i have been creating an ash bowl. and am having very good results with 15 mats so far. it takes me 2 weeks to prepare a hole.

i will start a more explicit thread next spring.

PR-Giants · 12-04-2022, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by beam2050

your familia with the jacksonville area i believe, anyways i am sitting on 15ft. of the nice yellow sand that the state of florida makes everybody use for their septic pads because it is so well draining. doesn't hold compost or granulated fertilizers either.

i was not explicit with this thread, but i was attempting to see if anybody posting was doing what i have been doing. i have burning wood and such in the hole and not sprinkling ash on top. i inadvertently came across this path 4 years ago. ash holds moisture up if done properly, i have been creating an ash bowl. and am having very good results with 15 mats so far. it takes me 2 weeks to prepare a hole.

i will start a more explicit thread next spring.

Yeah, I lived on the beach in Jacksonville during the early 80's and there was quite a bit of sand. My main farm now has similar issues as to what your dealing with but I never tried using a thick layer of ash to line the bottom of the trenches, though any impermeable type of liner should work well. I think what you're doing is often referred to as a Banana Circle and any shape will work but I've found circles to be inefficient compared to trenches. These pits get root bound after a couple seasons and it's much easier to cut the edges of a trench and roll up the roots for removal. As for the liner we just pour in a slurry of clay at the bottom of the trenches.

PR-Giants · 12-04-2022, 08:31 AM

https://treeyopermacultureedu.com/ch...banana-circle/

https://www.permaculturenews.org/201...anana-circles/

How to Build a Banana Circle | PermacultureFX

https://www.permaculturenews.org/201...tant-benefits/

beam2050 · 12-04-2022, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants

Yeah, I lived on the beach in Jacksonville during the early 80's and there was quite a bit of sand. My main farm now has similar issues as to what your dealing with but I never tried using a thick layer of ash to line the bottom of the trenches, though any impermeable type of liner should work well. I think what you're doing is often referred to as a Banana Circle and any shape will work but I've found circles to be inefficient compared to trenches. These pits get root bound after a couple seasons and it's much easier to cut the edges of a trench and roll up the roots for removal. As for the liner we just pour in a slurry of clay at the bottom of the trenches.

no, i am digging a 2ft. round hole and ending up with a 3 ft. round hole.

if i would have been smart and could predict the future i would have had much of this property dug up and put in clay. i had 3 large banana circles with mulch that did not do that great. and now with garage an such getting to them would tear to much up for me to dig them out and do clay. i can run the equipment and i have very good friends who have them and the trucks.

i ran across this when irma 5 years ago blew down 5 large blackjack oaks. up rooting 2, which i burned all those trees in those 2 holes and planted a dwarf maoli tc in one.

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