Can fruit mature without leaves on the P-stem? - Page 2

Darkman · 03-16-2012, 07:44 AM

Bananaman88 and Harvey C,

Ok! We are nationwide, coast to coast and with Cassie, we are International with our little test.

sunfish · 03-16-2012, 08:29 AM

Damage...will the banans mature?

Damage...will the banans mature?

Bananaman88 · 03-16-2012, 09:08 AM

I keep meaning to get a shot of my Raja Puri and post it but keep forgetting. Maybe this weekend!

kaczercat · 03-16-2012, 01:57 PM

great to see you posting again Carol

nice size bunch. do people prop bunches up after they snap because they look nicer or does it keep them growing a bit faster?

PR-Giants · 03-16-2012, 03:40 PM

I had mature Pseudostem break off above the root corm, with the inflorescence still inside. After reading this post, I decided to remove
the leaves and cut above the inflorescence and put it back in the
ground without any roots. I'm interested if anything positive might happen,
if it does I will post the photos.

island cassie · 03-16-2012, 04:58 PM

Hi Matt - because we are in a high wind situation here being a kitesurfing destination, I generally need to prop all trees with big bunches - and some of them weigh 80lbs! Because this was only a moderately sized bunch and with no warning of high winds, I was caught out! I have never had a pstem bend like this - but then I usually have the props ready because of the weight of the bunches and the high winds here.

Bananaman88 · 03-19-2012, 07:59 PM

Here's a picture of my 'Raja Puri' blooming without any leaves.

Bananaman88 · 03-19-2012, 08:01 PM

Here's a close up of the 'Raja Puri' flower.

Nicolas Naranja · 03-19-2012, 10:06 PM

They will ripen, but they wont fill. I need to get some pictures because I have a bunch of frosted out plantains.

Bananaman88 · 03-20-2012, 09:12 AM

Nicolas- that has been my experience as well; will ripen but not finish filling out. I had an Ice Cream and a Dw. Brazilian that did exactly that last year. Close to the same situation, both flowered in mid-late summer, so the fruit never had enough time to develop fully. I wrapped both bunches to protect them from cold. The Ice Cream fruit eventually ripened when they were about 3" long and an 1-1 1/2" in diameter. They tasted fine but just weren't filled out properly. The Dw. Brazilian were even smaller in diameter and I didn't even waste time waiting to see what they would do. The few I cut into were still mostly peel.

PR-Giants · 03-20-2012, 09:28 AM

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First photo Mar-15 is about a week after it broke due to high wind gusts.
Next Mar-18 & 20

sunfish · 03-20-2012, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants

First photo is about a week after it broke due to high wind gusts.
I am trying to add a photo to this post, but don't know how.
Can anyone help, thanks

Click on your photo copy and past the Code for bulletin boards:to the post

asacomm · 04-04-2012, 06:21 PM

Hello everyone,

I have nearly the same anxiety.

Is there any possibility that the frruits can grow?

harveyc · 05-20-2012, 10:35 PM

Here's my leafless bunch that flowered 2-3 months ago after 35 mornings with frost this past winter. I think they're getting a little larger, but haven't really kept track that closely.

PR-Giants · 05-23-2012, 01:28 AM

My P-Stem produced about 18 fruit each a little over 8 oz. I would never had thought it was possible without roots or leaves, these plants are amazing. I have to believe it sent out new feeders, maybe I'll get some pups later.

harveyc · 05-23-2012, 01:34 AM

I keep getting distracted but have meant to cut off the flower bud on my plant in the photo above. I also plan on bagging the fruit, partly to avoid sunburn.

PR-Giants · 05-23-2012, 01:57 AM

I'm at 18 degrees north and I have never seen fruit get sunburned while on the plant, but will if left in the sun after harvest.

sunfish · 05-23-2012, 08:27 AM

I was going to remove this plant but I'll leave it and see what happens

Bananaman88 · 05-23-2012, 09:08 AM

I ended up removing my Raja Puri about 3 weeks ago. The fruit were obviously not filling out whatsoever and I kept removing pups so there were no pups to even help feed the mother plant.

Darkman · 05-23-2012, 03:27 PM

Unfortunately none of my three bunches on three separate mats did anything. They just whithered away. The mat is very healthy and has even produced another P-stem with leaves and a bloom but it only has twelve bananas. In my case the answer is a resounding NO The mat can not support fruit on a P-stem with out leaves.

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