Buyer Beware

shopgirl2 · 11-10-2007, 08:48 AM

How do I go about a posting for a seller of bananas that has received payment and is negligent in mailing the plant?
Is there a group for this type?

I am aware many people here do business with Ebay. But this person has done wrong.

thanks for input.

Tropicallvr · 11-10-2007, 01:53 PM

Try googling "Garden watchdog" or something like that. It's a feature on the "Daves Garden" forum/site, and is really helpful for checking peoples feedback. TY TY used to be on there too, but they filed a lawsuit against Daves Garden, so he took theirs off.
Maybe you should contact them again, if the plant never shows then give them a bad rating on ebay, and sometimes all it takes it threatening to file mail fraud against them, but it pays to be careful about overreacting.
I hope you get your banana.

bananimal · 11-10-2007, 02:09 PM

Hey Carmensol (shopgirl),

You scared the heck out of me with this post. I thought you were talking about me. Didn't read your thank you email sent before this post until after logging on to B.org.

Now I know everything is OK. I've been having problems with my computer lately and I can't open Outlook Express first after logging on. Connectivity will be lost. However, if I open Bananas.org first thru Yahoo, and then open Outlook everything is OK. It didn't used to be like this - it's a new problem.

So glad you recieved the Saba, dwf Orinoco and Pitogo in good shape. I know I went overboard with the packing technique. It's a combination of Going Bananas and Stokes methods. Nothing moves around and the roots will stay damp for a week at least.

PM me for questions, and how the plants are doing anytime.

Dan

klemmthamm · 11-10-2007, 09:35 PM

Dan I have a PM inbound to ya!

-James-

klemmthamm · 11-10-2007, 09:40 PM

Carmensol, what is the user's name on Ebay?

If you don't want to post it here just yet then PM it to me. Just curious because I am friends with a couple of people who sell bananas there and I was wanting to see if it was one of them... if it is someone I know I can give them a ring and find out what the deal is.

-James-

valerie@flower · 11-11-2007, 04:43 AM

That is really nice of you James to help out a fellow member. Camensol you have a good support team here. Hope you sort things out with the ebayer.
Valerie

klemmthamm · 11-11-2007, 05:19 AM

Valerie, I just do what I can

... I must note though, that the people I know that sell on ebay are really good people that honor their word but you never know if something happened to them (ailment, family emergency, etc.) that may have prevented them from getting things out on time.

-James-

sandy0225 · 11-11-2007, 02:24 PM

You should go onto e-bay and open a dispute for the item.
It will walk you through it. That way, ebay will be able to help you receive your item, or satisfaction for it.
It is also possible that the item was sent and somehow was pilfered before you got your mail. That happened to one of my customers. The usps confirmation showed they received it, but they never did receive it. I ended up sending them another one since I had several. But there are several options that you can take to remedy the situation.

sandy0225 · 11-11-2007, 02:25 PM

P.S. You can buy off me next time, I send out my merchandise....LOL
Have to get those little advertisements in where you can.....

Kylie2x · 11-11-2007, 03:45 PM

WOW!! searching Sandy out who knows what I might find!!!! I hope you will share your BAD vendor with us somehow. I would hate to be the next victim...
Kylie

pitangadiego · 11-11-2007, 05:47 PM

USPS Confirmation means NOTHiNG. The letter-carrier marks that it was delivered, but the recipient/addressee doen't have to sign for it, see it, or even be notified that it was "delivered". It is NOT proof of delivery, only proof that the letter-carrier marked it off his list.

valerie@flower · 11-12-2007, 07:20 AM

Since we are on the subject of buyer beware. Never bid or buy anything that does not have the shipping total or estimated amount for shipping. There was an Ebayer I had a run in with. She had an item that she claimed was to big to fit into her car to mail out. She expected the buyer to pay for the pick-up from a moving company, packaging from UPS at her house with shipping. The total for the junk she was selling ended up being three times as much as the item. After the inquiry with all these added fees she was reported to Ebay to advise buyers of the added fees. The item was taken off shortly afterwards. So be careful if something is too big or heavy weight.

shopgirl2 · 11-16-2007, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bananimal

Hey Carmensol (shopgirl),

You scared the heck out of me with this post. I thought you were talking about me. Didn't read your thank you email sent before this post until after logging on to B.org.

Now I know everything is OK. I've been having problems with my computer lately and I can't open Outlook Express first after logging on. Connectivity will be lost. However, if I open Bananas.org first thru Yahoo, and then open Outlook everything is OK. It didn't used to be like this - it's a new problem.

So glad you recieved the Saba, dwf Orinoco and Pitogo in good shape. I know I went overboard with the packing technique. It's a combination of Going Bananas and Stokes methods. Nothing moves around and the roots will stay damp for a week at least.

PM me for questions, and how the plants are doing anytime.

Dan

Not in your life. I am very impressed with your professionalism and the way in which you kept communications open throughout. I take this oipportunity to say that the bananas are already sleeping in their new containers with new soil. They are at t his time in an open carport protected with clear plastic bags. Not too cold here as yet (32F) North Carolina last night, but no frost.
I am so proud of those plants! Thank you so very very much!

shopgirl2 · 11-16-2007, 09:35 AM

[COLOR="Cyan"]Carmensol, what is the user's name on Ebay?

If you don't want to post it here just yet then PM it to me. Just curious because I am friends with a couple of people who sell bananas there and I was wanting to see if it was one of them... if it is someone I know I can give them a ring and find out what the deal is.[/color]

Thank you for your concern, however, I feel it is best to keep the person anonymous at this time.

I have lost on a sale, but could have lost more. another lesson to learn.

This transaction took place BEFORE I knew about htis wonderful forum, bananas.org.

Just be careful when dealing with some vendors on E-Bay.

Tropicallvr · 11-16-2007, 11:45 AM

I paid $50.00 in shipping from the UK (didn't read carefully enough before I bid), after I noticed my mistake I asked why it was so high, and that I thought it was too much. He just said that with import costs and permit fee that it what it would come to. I didn't belive him but paid anyway. It arrived without any permit, with a label that didn't say it was a plant, with postage for about $6.00. I complained and got threats in return, so I wrote up a bad review for him, and in turn got I bad review for myself. Then he requested through Ebay that we both take down our bad reviews, but I'm stubborn and wouldn't do it even though it made my approval percentage look bad.
Even with feedback it's hard to tell if someone is on the up and up because of the blackmail type tactics that are employed in retailiation.
Have had good luck with most sellers though.

bencelest · 11-16-2007, 12:14 PM

Please pm me so I know this guy.
I would not want to deal with this kind either.

harveyc · 11-16-2007, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitangadiego

USPS Confirmation means NOTHiNG. The letter-carrier marks that it was delivered, but the recipient/addressee doen't have to sign for it, see it, or even be notified that it was "delivered". It is NOT proof of delivery, only proof that the letter-carrier marked it off his list.

That's for sure, Jon, though it is usually a pretty good indication it was actually delivered. I've sent out about 1,500 packages via USPS Priority in the past three years and only had one case where the delivery confirmation was false. The buyer went around and around with his local Post Office because he was sure it wasn't delivered. They found it in their back room on a shelf even though the substitute carrier had scanned it as being delivered. I did have one other case where I thought the same thing may have happened but, about two weeks after my shipment of chestnuts had been delivered, an absent-minded teenager happened to think that she should tell her mom that she had gotten a package and put it away in the closet. They were spoiled by then! LOL

Back to the topic of this discussion, I don't understand why you don't report this eBay user's ID here. At a minimum, can you at least tell us if you have left negative feedback for the seller? I don't think you want someone else to experience the same fate as you did. Please PM me the ID if you still don't want to post it here in the forum. Thanks in advance.

Mark Hall · 11-16-2007, 02:00 PM

Guys I posted something very similar to this on the old Oasis forum about ebay scams and it turned out very bad. There was proof that sellers were bumping up the prices and I warned people not to buy and then I get mails from the mods saying stop it its Libel and they could get into trouble.

Things got blown out of poportion and in the end Oasis collapsed.

PM s are the best way to push this guys name around not on a public forum.

Even I would like to know who these sellers are to avoid making the same mistake and buying from them expecially the uk seller.

pitangadiego · 11-16-2007, 02:30 PM

Harvey,

I haven't experienced a "confirmed delivery" that wasn't actually delivered. But the extra expense doesn't actually get you any real proof of delivery (and remember they are usually lea ving it in a mail box, on the street, where it is convenient for anyone to grab, as opposed to on the porch, or elsewhere). There is a different service, for a fee, which requires the recipients signature. Along the same line, when a signature is required, and I am not at home, they leave a slip to pick it up at the PO. In ten years, they have never been able to find the package on the first or second trip - always, always, always turns into a nightmare. That's why I much prefer UPS.

11-10-2007, 08:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
shopgirl2 Chiquita Banana shopgirl2's Photo Gallery Location: Camp Lejeune, N.C. area Find me on the map! Zone: 8 Name: Carmensol Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 157 BananaBucks : 5,151 Feedback: 0 / 0% Thanks: 42 Thanked 12 Times in 6 Posts Welcomes: 0	Buyer Beware How do I go about a posting for a seller of bananas that has received payment and is negligent in mailing the plant? Is there a group for this type? I am aware many people here do business with Ebay. But this person has done wrong. thanks for input. __________________ I do my thing and you do your thing. I am not in this world to live up to your expectations and you are not in this world to live up to mine. You are you and I am me, If by chance we meet, it's beautiful, if not, it can't be helped. (Nietzsche).

11-10-2007, 01:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tropicallvr Member Tropicallvr's Photo Gallery Location: Circa Puerto Vallarta Zone: 11 Name: Kyle Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 996 BananaBucks : 15,340 Feedback: 6 / 100% Thanks: 159 Thanked 201 Times in 116 Posts Welcomes: 14	Re: Buyer Beware Try googling "Garden watchdog" or something like that. It's a feature on the "Daves Garden" forum/site, and is really helpful for checking peoples feedback. TY TY used to be on there too, but they filed a lawsuit against Daves Garden, so he took theirs off. Maybe you should contact them again, if the plant never shows then give them a bad rating on ebay, and sometimes all it takes it threatening to file mail fraud against them, but it pays to be careful about overreacting. I hope you get your banana.

11-10-2007, 02:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
bananimal Member bananimal's Photo Gallery Location: Port St Lucie, Fla Find me on the map! Zone: 9b Name: Dan Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 275 BananaBucks : 4,872 Feedback: 6 / 100% Thanks: 0 Thanked 49 Times in 24 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Buyer Beware Hey Carmensol (shopgirl), You scared the heck out of me with this post. I thought you were talking about me. Didn't read your thank you email sent before this post until after logging on to B.org. Now I know everything is OK. I've been having problems with my computer lately and I can't open Outlook Express first after logging on. Connectivity will be lost. However, if I open Bananas.org first thru Yahoo, and then open Outlook everything is OK. It didn't used to be like this - it's a new problem. So glad you recieved the Saba, dwf Orinoco and Pitogo in good shape. I know I went overboard with the packing technique. It's a combination of Going Bananas and Stokes methods. Nothing moves around and the roots will stay damp for a week at least. PM me for questions, and how the plants are doing anytime. Dan

11-10-2007, 09:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
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11-11-2007, 04:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
valerie@flower valerie@flower's Photo Gallery Location: California Find me on the map! Zone: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 91 BananaBucks : 462 Feedback: 0 / 0% Thanks: 7 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Buyer Beware That is really nice of you James to help out a fellow member. Camensol you have a good support team here. Hope you sort things out with the ebayer. Valerie

11-11-2007, 05:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
klemmthamm New lemony fresh scent! klemmthamm's Photo Gallery Location: N.E. Oklahoma Find me on the map! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 267 BananaBucks : 1,504 Feedback: 5 / 100% Thanks: 30 Thanked 46 Times in 32 Posts Welcomes: 1	Re: Buyer Beware Valerie, I just do what I can ... I must note though, that the people I know that sell on ebay are really good people that honor their word but you never know if something happened to them (ailment, family emergency, etc.) that may have prevented them from getting things out on time. -James- __________________ I'm a cheap date... just thought I'd let you know.

11-11-2007, 02:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
sandy0225 Northern Tropics sandy0225's Photo Gallery Location: Muncie, Indiana Find me on the map! Zone: zone 5 Name: Sandy Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 480 BananaBucks : 8,052 Feedback: 18 / 100% Thanks: 1 Thanked 115 Times in 63 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Buyer Beware You should go onto e-bay and open a dispute for the item. It will walk you through it. That way, ebay will be able to help you receive your item, or satisfaction for it. It is also possible that the item was sent and somehow was pilfered before you got your mail. That happened to one of my customers. The usps confirmation showed they received it, but they never did receive it. I ended up sending them another one since I had several. But there are several options that you can take to remedy the situation. __________________ Sandy Burrell Northern Tropics Greenhouse 1501 East Fuson Road Muncie, IN 47302 www.northerntropics.com specializing in bananas, heirloom tomatoes and water gardening plants~ check out our new online store at our website!

11-11-2007, 02:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
sandy0225 Northern Tropics sandy0225's Photo Gallery Location: Muncie, Indiana Find me on the map! Zone: zone 5 Name: Sandy Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 480 BananaBucks : 8,052 Feedback: 18 / 100% Thanks: 1 Thanked 115 Times in 63 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Buyer Beware P.S. You can buy off me next time, I send out my merchandise....LOL Have to get those little advertisements in where you can..... __________________ Sandy Burrell Northern Tropics Greenhouse 1501 East Fuson Road Muncie, IN 47302 www.northerntropics.com specializing in bananas, heirloom tomatoes and water gardening plants~ check out our new online store at our website!

11-11-2007, 03:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
Kylie2x Senior Member Kylie2x's Photo Gallery Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,059 BananaBucks : 3,848 Feedback: 20 / 100% Thanks: 134 Thanked 119 Times in 91 Posts Welcomes: 155	Re: Buyer Beware WOW!! searching Sandy out who knows what I might find!!!! I hope you will share your BAD vendor with us somehow. I would hate to be the next victim... Kylie

11-11-2007, 05:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
pitangadiego Senior Member Location: San Diego, CA Find me on the map! Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 488 BananaBucks : 4,434 Feedback: 5 / 100% Thanks: 0 Thanked 177 Times in 70 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Buyer Beware USPS Confirmation means NOTHiNG. The letter-carrier marks that it was delivered, but the recipient/addressee doen't have to sign for it, see it, or even be notified that it was "delivered". It is NOT proof of delivery, only proof that the letter-carrier marked it off his list. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com We Be Bananas http://webebananas.com

11-12-2007, 07:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
valerie@flower valerie@flower's Photo Gallery Location: California Find me on the map! Zone: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 91 BananaBucks : 462 Feedback: 0 / 0% Thanks: 7 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Buyer Beware Since we are on the subject of buyer beware. Never bid or buy anything that does not have the shipping total or estimated amount for shipping. There was an Ebayer I had a run in with. She had an item that she claimed was to big to fit into her car to mail out. She expected the buyer to pay for the pick-up from a moving company, packaging from UPS at her house with shipping. The total for the junk she was selling ended up being three times as much as the item. After the inquiry with all these added fees she was reported to Ebay to advise buyers of the added fees. The item was taken off shortly afterwards. So be careful if something is too big or heavy weight.

11-16-2007, 09:35 AM	#14 (permalink)
shopgirl2 Chiquita Banana shopgirl2's Photo Gallery Location: Camp Lejeune, N.C. area Find me on the map! Zone: 8 Name: Carmensol Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 157 BananaBucks : 5,151 Feedback: 0 / 0% Thanks: 42 Thanked 12 Times in 6 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Buyer Beware [COLOR="Cyan"]Carmensol, what is the user's name on Ebay? If you don't want to post it here just yet then PM it to me. Just curious because I am friends with a couple of people who sell bananas there and I was wanting to see if it was one of them... if it is someone I know I can give them a ring and find out what the deal is.[/color] Thank you for your concern, however, I feel it is best to keep the person anonymous at this time. I have lost on a sale, but could have lost more. another lesson to learn. This transaction took place BEFORE I knew about htis wonderful forum, bananas.org. Just be careful when dealing with some vendors on E-Bay. __________________ I do my thing and you do your thing. I am not in this world to live up to your expectations and you are not in this world to live up to mine. You are you and I am me, If by chance we meet, it's beautiful, if not, it can't be helped. (Nietzsche).

11-16-2007, 11:45 AM	#15 (permalink)
Tropicallvr Member Tropicallvr's Photo Gallery Location: Circa Puerto Vallarta Zone: 11 Name: Kyle Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 996 BananaBucks : 15,340 Feedback: 6 / 100% Thanks: 159 Thanked 201 Times in 116 Posts Welcomes: 14	Re: Buyer Beware I paid $50.00 in shipping from the UK (didn't read carefully enough before I bid), after I noticed my mistake I asked why it was so high, and that I thought it was too much. He just said that with import costs and permit fee that it what it would come to. I didn't belive him but paid anyway. It arrived without any permit, with a label that didn't say it was a plant, with postage for about $6.00. I complained and got threats in return, so I wrote up a bad review for him, and in turn got I bad review for myself. Then he requested through Ebay that we both take down our bad reviews, but I'm stubborn and wouldn't do it even though it made my approval percentage look bad. Even with feedback it's hard to tell if someone is on the up and up because of the blackmail type tactics that are employed in retailiation. Have had good luck with most sellers though.

11-16-2007, 12:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
bencelest Banana Nut bencelest's Photo Gallery Location: California Zone 9 Zone: 9 Name: Benny Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,524 BananaBucks : 8,774 Feedback: 2 / 100% Thanks: 2 Thanked 177 Times in 155 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Buyer Beware Please pm me so I know this guy. I would not want to deal with this kind either. __________________ Banana Nut

11-16-2007, 02:00 PM	#18 (permalink)
Mark Hall Mark Mark Hall's Photo Gallery Location: Windsor u.k. Find me on the map! Name: Mark Hall Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 443 BananaBucks : 5,094 Feedback: 1 / 100% Thanks: 92 Thanked 62 Times in 38 Posts Welcomes: 2	Re: Buyer Beware Guys I posted something very similar to this on the old Oasis forum about ebay scams and it turned out very bad. There was proof that sellers were bumping up the prices and I warned people not to buy and then I get mails from the mods saying stop it its Libel and they could get into trouble. Things got blown out of poportion and in the end Oasis collapsed. PM s are the best way to push this guys name around not on a public forum. Even I would like to know who these sellers are to avoid making the same mistake and buying from them expecially the uk seller. __________________ Time Flies like an Arrow.....Fruit flies like a Banana.

11-16-2007, 02:30 PM	#19 (permalink)
pitangadiego Senior Member Location: San Diego, CA Find me on the map! Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 488 BananaBucks : 4,434 Feedback: 5 / 100% Thanks: 0 Thanked 177 Times in 70 Posts Welcomes: 0	Re: Buyer Beware Harvey, I haven't experienced a "confirmed delivery" that wasn't actually delivered. But the extra expense doesn't actually get you any real proof of delivery (and remember they are usually lea ving it in a mail box, on the street, where it is convenient for anyone to grab, as opposed to on the porch, or elsewhere). There is a different service, for a fee, which requires the recipients signature. Along the same line, when a signature is required, and I am not at home, they leave a slip to pick it up at the PO. In ten years, they have never been able to find the package on the first or second trip - always, always, always turns into a nightmare. That's why I much prefer UPS. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com We Be Bananas http://webebananas.com