A bunch of the young freuits of Hajaray

asacomm · 08-26-2014, 10:35 PM

Hello Banana Lovers!

Following up to the previous photo of the flowering of Hajaray on this forum,
I now want to introduce you the photos of the young fruits of this banana.

This banana is believed to be a hybrid between Sikkimensis and Rajapuri.
As I have not grown Rajapuri, I cannot say anything about the similarity with
Rajapuri. But I don't think it resemble the fruits of Sikkimensis.

Your comments are welcome.

asacomm · 08-27-2014, 03:52 AM

Hello all,

Regarding the photo of Hajaray, I found very interesting photo posted by
crazy banana.

The banana fingers of this photo resemble that of Rajapuri which is said to
be the mother of this banana. This is the matter of course.

The releaser of this photo is German "frosthartenpalmen.de" from whom we
bought the seedlings of this banana.

At the moment, the shape of the young fingers of our Hajaray are very much
different from that of German photo.
So I cannot help doubting he mislabeled on our seedlings.

venturabananas · 08-27-2014, 10:54 AM

Asacomm, your photos and the one from frosthartenpalmen.de both look very much like Namwah (Pisang Awak) varieties. Although your photos look fairly distinct from the German ones, both of those bunches fall within the range of appearances found in Pisang Awak bunches in my yard. Neither show a Rajapuri or closely related (Pome) variety.

crazy banana · 08-27-2014, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asacomm

Hello all,

Regarding the photo of Hajaray, I found very interesting photo posted by
crazy banana.

The banana fingers of this photo resemble that of Rajapuri which is said to
be the mother of this banana. This is the matter of course.

The releaser of this photo is German "frosthartenpalmen.de" from whom we
bought the seedlings of this banana.

At the moment, the shape of the young fingers of our Hajaray are very much
different from that of German photo.
So I cannot help doubting he mislabeled on our seedlings.

Thanks for posting my photo. I uploaded it last night to my gallery via my phone but was not able to post it in your thread without a PC.
My family has bought some plants from frosthartepalmen.de in the past, that is why I remembered seeing that photo of the Hajaray and I actually thought the same as venturabananas that the fruits size and bottleneck shape reminds me of my Namwah.
And frosthartepalmen.de does not offer any Namwah ( or maybe an also mislabeled Ice Cream), so who knows

.......?

asacomm · 08-27-2014, 08:03 PM

Hello venturabananas & crazy banana,

Thanks for your comments and I do agree with your observation that the
banana fingers resemble those of Namwa/Pisan Awak.

In fact, I wrote about my observations on this forum several days ago under
the title "Hajaray Flowering Starts".

Now, the question is the banana in the picture of "frosthartepalmen.de" could
be real Hajaray or not. If such banana really existed, more fruiting reports
should have been released. Or they just faked?

venturabananas · 08-28-2014, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asacomm

Now, the question is the banana in the picture of "frosthartepalmen.de" could be real Hajaray or not. If such banana really existed, more fruiting reports should have been released. Or they just faked?

I think the real question is does such a thing as Hajaray really exist, i.e., a cross between Musa sikkimensis and Musa hybrid "Rajapuri"? No banana named Hajaray (or close variants of that name) showed up in the MGIS banana database when I did a quick search. Seems a fairly unlikely (but not impossible) cross to make. Yours certainly does not show parentage of either of those bananas.

Namwah is certainly among the most cold-hardy "edible" bananas. Maybe somewhere in the world it is called "Hajaray" and the rest about its derivation is (incorrect) speculation.

asacomm · 08-28-2014, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venturabananas

I think the real question is does such a
thing as Hajaray really exist, i.e., a cross between Musa sikkimensis and
Musa hybrid "Rajapuri"? No banana named Hajaray (or close variants of
that name) showed up in the MGIS banana database when I did a quick
search. Seems a fairly unlikely (but not impossible) cross to make. Yours
certainly does not show parentage of either of those bananas.

Namwah is certainly among the most cold-hardy "edible" bananas. Maybe
somewhere in the world it is called "Hajaray" and the rest about its
derivation is (incorrect) speculation.

I also have been thinking the same thing all the time, and so I do agree with
you.

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