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hotfornana 10-21-2023 08:29 PM

blue javas
 
Does anyone know where to find Blue Javas? I live in a cold climate so I can't grow them. I'd love to import some but cannot find anything online or through my farmers market.

Westwood 10-27-2023 02:31 PM

Re: blue javas
 
I have Blue Javas just pulled up some pups . id you mean the Ice cream banana i also have the apple bananas . looking for other ones but always need dwarf i do not climb ladders

PR-Giants 10-28-2023 11:17 AM

Re: blue javas
 
A Bluggoe banana is more flavorful but similar enough to get an idea of the fruit quality of a Blue Java. Bluggoe are commonly found in fruit markets in the U.S., they are also called Donkey bananas, Horse bananas, Pig bananas, Mafafo, California Gold, Texas Star, and Orinoco.

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Originally Posted by hotfornana (Post 354341)
Does anyone know where to find Blue Javas? I live in a cold climate so I can't grow them. I'd love to import some but cannot find anything online or through my farmers market.


RROBBINS53 10-31-2023 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 354368)
A Bluggoe banana is more flavorful but similar enough to get an idea of the fruit quality of a Blue Java. Bluggoe are commonly found in fruit markets in the U.S., they are also called Donkey bananas, Horse bananas, Pig bananas, Mafafo, California Gold, Texas Star, and Orinoco.

I don't want to get confused so let me say this and you all can correct me if I'm off. My understanding is the group name is Bluggoe. It consists of five different varieties. Those are Bluggoe, Silver Bluggoe, Ice Cream (also known as Blue Java), Largo (also known as Orinoco or Burro in the mainland), and Kahiki Cream. Due to some issues, years ago a nursery mislabeled Namwa variety, calling and selling them as Blue java. So today many people who think they bought Blue Java/Ice Cream banana actually have Namwa variety instead. As you know it is best to try and Identify bananas when the plant is fruiting, so it might take a year or so before you can correctly identify your plant. Ice Cream/ Blu Java have a small knuckle where each fruit connects to the hand. It is quite distinct. Whereas Namwa fruit all run together in a band where they attach to each hand. (no knuckles).To summarize, I hope you all have what you think you do. Also the Blue Java/Ice Cream only has the bluish tint when it is immature. It turns kind of a waxy yellow when mature. Aloha

Art_R 10-31-2023 08:00 PM

Re: blue javas
 
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Originally Posted by hotfornana (Post 354341)
Does anyone know where to find Blue Javas? I live in a cold climate so I can't grow them. I'd love to import some but cannot find anything online or through my farmers market.

If you just want the fruit, try the following website: miamifruit.org

PR-Giants 11-01-2023 07:00 PM

Re: blue javas
 
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Originally Posted by RROBBINS53 (Post 354389)
I don't want to get confused

https://www.crop-diversity.org/mgis/

This website lets you search by genotype, subgroup, and variety.

Bananas are herbs12837372 11-07-2023 11:34 AM

Re: blue javas
 
I have 5 plants but no fruit

Logan W 11-24-2023 03:24 PM

Re: blue javas
 
So I just planted a blue java that I got from a nursery about 1 month ago and I take it out of the pot to plant it and it looks like root rot has enveloped the entire plant. Do banana trees sometimes have darker roots? Can I get a refund or replacement if I provide proof it came like that?

https://media.textnow.com/d609d3b7-2...6-77ec412e9c33

Reminosys 11-25-2023 03:22 PM

Re: blue javas
 
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Originally Posted by RROBBINS53 (Post 354389)
I don't want to get confused so let me say this and you all can correct me if I'm off. My understanding is the group name is Bluggoe. It consists of five different varieties. Those are Bluggoe, Silver Bluggoe, Ice Cream (also known as Blue Java), Largo (also known as Orinoco or Burro in the mainland), and Kahiki Cream. Due to some issues, years ago a nursery mislabeled Namwa variety, calling and selling them as Blue java. So today many people who think they bought Blue Java/Ice Cream banana actually have Namwa variety instead. As you know it is best to try and Identify bananas when the plant is fruiting, so it might take a year or so before you can correctly identify your plant. Ice Cream/ Blu Java have a small knuckle where each fruit connects to the hand. It is quite distinct. Whereas Namwa fruit all run together in a band where they attach to each hand. (no knuckles).To summarize, I hope you all have what you think you do. Also the Blue Java/Ice Cream only has the bluish tint when it is immature. It turns kind of a waxy yellow when mature. Aloha

Nice synopsis, generally accurate. Blue Java has technically been reassigned to the Ney Mannan Subgroup, but is still similar to Bluggoe Subgroup members.

Trying to settle on a cultivar count is a bit more complicated though, especially for the Bluggoe Subgroup. Because it grows readily in so many locales, there's more likelihood that random but stable mutations happen. As a result of that, there are intermediate forms between the most recognized cultivars, not fitting neatly within the descriptors for any defined variants.

Btw, Largo and Bluggoe might be one and the same. Hard to say without someone growing them in identical conditions.


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