Update

Rmplmnz · 10-12-2011, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkman

Wow!!! That is awesome that I can trace my Saba back to the Philippines. No wondering on the correctness of that one!

Thanks again Chris!

Yes, very cool that Bill Lessard personally hand collected many/most of the specimens within his grove.

Following is an interesting quote from Pitangadiego's web site:

ORINOCO
"The name 'Orinoco' is due to W. O. Lessard who first encountered the plant growing by the Orinoco River. Lessard was a pioneer banana nurseryman in Florida who wrote a very influential but sometimes inaccurate book on bananas."

ENCANTO FARMS

oakshadows · 10-12-2011, 03:04 PM

Mostly time consuming but when you get set up it will save time and maybe a few plants that might have gotten neglected. So with all of the time you saved you can go and find more plants to grow. Vicious cycle. They also have some info on how to get set up. Good luck.

Willow87 · 10-12-2011, 03:09 PM

I'm definitely going to read into. I lost quite a few plants and that may have saved them. I had the issue of my corms rotting during spring. I amended the soil with composted cow manure and I thought that would help but the corm rotted. That area dried out so bad this summer, I can hardly dig into it. I just gave up watering for the most part lol

oakshadows · 10-12-2011, 07:38 PM

Cameron, Compost is good but drainage is of an important factor. If your soil doesn't drain good then you might think of raising the height of the plant so the soil can do so. Here, my problem is that the soil percolates very well and moisture has to be keep by means of compost and mulch. Drips work well but all else is need to be attended to also. Good luck.

Willow87 · 10-12-2011, 07:44 PM

Thanks for the advice. I've heard of people using Perlite but I was wondering how much would I have to use for a small flowerbed?

Darkman · 10-12-2011, 09:38 PM

Tons and tons of oak tree leaves. Holds moisture and decomposes enriching the soil. I have at least a 8" thick layer over the entire bed.

Willow87 · 10-13-2011, 03:18 AM

Thanks Darkman. I think I'm going to look around town to see if anyone has any bags of oak leaves. I use hackberry leaves but they decompose very quickly

Rmplmnz · 10-13-2011, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkman

Tons and tons of oak tree leaves. Holds moisture and decomposes enriching the soil. I have at least a 8" thick layer over the entire bed.

Yep...create the "Jungle Floor"

Link to post:
'Praying Hands' and jumbo leaves

Dreaminofthetropics · 10-13-2011, 10:23 PM

Lol... The jungle floor.... Sounds familiar

I'm getting ready to do a fall covering of the floor.. Do you do one or two times a year chris?

Rmplmnz · 10-14-2011, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dreaminofthetropics

Lol... The jungle floor.... Sounds familiar

I'm getting ready to do a fall covering of the floor.. Do you do one or two times a year chris?

Once a year..but it takes several months to complete.

I add about 5 tons of leaves a year
5 tons of tree mulch
7-8 tons of horse manure
'Praying Hands' and jumbo leaves

oakshadows · 10-14-2011, 03:36 PM

Looks like you two are slaves to the plants. Don't ever stop, it looks great.

Darkman · 10-18-2011, 08:16 PM

I collect bags of leaves in the early spring. That is when the oaks drop there old leaves here. Two to three days a week for four to five hours a day for about three months. I literally have easily over two thousand bags by the end of leaf season. I'm down to about 100 bags right now and they will be gone when I winterize. I separate the oak leaves from pine straw too. I use the pine straw for the winterizing too as it is lighter and a little better insulator. It is the airspace that makes good insulation and the straw stays dryer. I'm starting to get in gear for this as the colder temps are starting to sneek in the now. Low of 46 tomorrow.

Rmplmnz · 10-18-2011, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkman

I collect bags of leaves in the early spring. That is when the oaks drop there old leaves here. Two to three days a week for four to five hours a day for about three months. I literally have easily over two thousand bags by the end of leaf season. I'm down to about 100 bags right now and they will be gone when I winterize. I separate the oak leaves from pine straw too. I use the pine straw for the winterizing too as it is lighter and a little better insulator. It is the airspace that makes good insulation and the straw stays dryer. I'm starting to get in gear for this as the colder temps are starting to sneek in the now. Low of 46 tomorrow.

The last two years have been tough going for collecting leaves...so many households in Tampa have had to cut down all of the tropicals that died the last two winters and everything is all mixed together.

Darkman · 10-18-2011, 09:03 PM

I get a lot of junk mixed in with mine sometimes. Every bag is like Cracker Jacks. It comes with a surprize. I found some pretty bizzarre things in the bags.

Dreaminofthetropics · 10-18-2011, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rmplmnz

The last two years have been tough going for collecting leaves...so many households in Tampa have had to cut down all of the tropicals that died the last two winters and everything is all mixed together.

Well the one nice thing about that is the cool things you find sometimes LOL (trying to put a positive spin on things) If you need some help picking up some leaves let me know!

Rmplmnz · 10-19-2011, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkman

I get a lot of junk mixed in with mine sometimes. Every bag is like Cracker Jacks. It comes with a surprize. I found some pretty bizzarre things in the bags.

Ha ha..I know the feeling...I have never planted an EE...they just show up..Kat ("Dreamofthetropics") asked me for the botanical names of the EE's I gave her...I have no idea as they are all volunteers from bags of leaves.....

Darkman · 10-22-2011, 04:47 PM

I have a volunteer Watermelon that there is a good chance it came from bags of leaves I dumped. It is a large fruited variety, probably a charleston grey. I have had three off of it so far and have three more large ones ready and about twelve small ones still growing.

Dreaminofthetropics · 12-26-2011, 08:23 PM

So, I haven’t updated in a LONG time! I only have one banana photo today to share and also photos of my new greenhouse. We put the plastic on today. We haven’t framed the ends, but we’re getting there. My poor yard has been neglected the last couple months with work and school taking forefront. I now am done with the semester and going to take a few months break from school! So, hopefully I will have more photos to share with everyone shortly and will be able to post more on bananas! I miss my friends on here and chatting! I miss my yard too LOL! So, the first photo is my Lavender Orinata taken today blooming beautifully out in the yard! The rest are the new greenhouse (with my kids inside) and also my tangerine’s that were the only ones really left on the tree (they were hidden behind canna’s we cut back to the ground today!)

Hope everyone had a great Christmas 

Dreaminofthetropics · 05-15-2012, 11:03 AM

Update

Bananas around hot tub

Don't have too many pics, but definitely will post more soon! Here is the back around our new hot tub (that isn't working which is driving me crazy) and my costus blooming as well

Costus Barbados Blooming

txzj pxzj26745 txzj19

Dreaminofthetropics · 05-15-2012, 11:43 AM

This is a "Brazilian Fruiting banana" I was given to by someone who collected it in Brazil!

Ube that I got from Christ didn`t think it would come back

Red Lady Papaya

Papaya volunteer from Chris last year. Thought it was gone, you can see the stump where it died and it came back from the roots!

Lavender ornata clump

Dwarf Reds need to be planted

Out front getting big. The only one that died to the ground is the closest which is a Monkey Fingers

In front of the houes getting big

Side of the house

Close up of praying hands to show the size compared to the house

I freaked out when I lost the main pseudostem of my African Rhino but alas the pup is growing fast

Another shot of the bananas in the back yard excuse the mess

Cannas and a saba in the corner

Ornata pups

My FHIA 21 is getting huge, the forefront is Pisang Raja which I thought I had lost but two pups came up

Raja puri pup

Siam Ruby with pups

If you look close there are two!

View from the back

Ensete Maurelli need to go in the ground!

Buddah belly bamboo from Chris its starting to take off

Iban Musak, I thought I lost it when I planted in ground, but one pup survived

txzj pxzj26745 txzj19

10-12-2011, 03:04 PM	#102 (permalink)
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Willow87 Willow87 Willow87's Photo Gallery Location: Plano, Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8a Name: Cameron Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,815 BananaBucks : 135,156 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 2,016 Times Was Thanked 2,524 Times in 1,487 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 6 Times	Re: Banana Progress I'm definitely going to read into. I lost quite a few plants and that may have saved them. I had the issue of my corms rotting during spring. I amended the soil with composted cow manure and I thought that would help but the corm rotted. That area dried out so bad this summer, I can hardly dig into it. I just gave up watering for the most part lol

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Willow87 Willow87 Willow87's Photo Gallery Location: Plano, Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8a Name: Cameron Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,815 BananaBucks : 135,156 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 2,016 Times Was Thanked 2,524 Times in 1,487 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 6 Times	Re: Banana Progress Thanks Darkman. I think I'm going to look around town to see if anyone has any bags of oak leaves. I use hackberry leaves but they decompose very quickly

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oakshadows oakshadows's Photo Gallery Location: Dunnellon, Florida Find me on the map! Zone: 9b Name: Noah Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,064 BananaBucks : 43,940 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 2,207 Times Was Thanked 847 Times in 514 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 437 Times	Re: Banana Progress Looks like you two are slaves to the plants. Don't ever stop, it looks great. __________________ "What this country needs is dirtier fingernails and cleaner minds."

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Darkman Dirt Master Darkman's Photo Gallery Location: Pensacola, FL South of I-10 Find me on the map! Zone: 8b/9a Name: Darkman Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,249 BananaBucks : 238,420 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 9,263 Times Was Thanked 1,582 Times in 702 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 243 Times	Re: Banana Progress I collect bags of leaves in the early spring. That is when the oaks drop there old leaves here. Two to three days a week for four to five hours a day for about three months. I literally have easily over two thousand bags by the end of leaf season. I'm down to about 100 bags right now and they will be gone when I winterize. I separate the oak leaves from pine straw too. I use the pine straw for the winterizing too as it is lighter and a little better insulator. It is the airspace that makes good insulation and the straw stays dryer. I'm starting to get in gear for this as the colder temps are starting to sneek in the now. Low of 46 tomorrow. __________________ Darkman in Pensacola AS ALWAYS IMHO AND YOUR MILEAGE MAY DIFFER!!!!!!!! Life - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong! Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable! Statistics - Data that analyst twist to support the insane opinions of those that pay them.

10-18-2011, 09:03 PM	#114 (permalink)
Darkman Dirt Master Darkman's Photo Gallery Location: Pensacola, FL South of I-10 Find me on the map! Zone: 8b/9a Name: Darkman Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,249 BananaBucks : 238,420 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 9,263 Times Was Thanked 1,582 Times in 702 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 243 Times	Re: Banana Progress I get a lot of junk mixed in with mine sometimes. Every bag is like Cracker Jacks. It comes with a surprize. I found some pretty bizzarre things in the bags. __________________ Darkman in Pensacola AS ALWAYS IMHO AND YOUR MILEAGE MAY DIFFER!!!!!!!! Life - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong! Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable! Statistics - Data that analyst twist to support the insane opinions of those that pay them.

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Darkman Dirt Master Darkman's Photo Gallery Location: Pensacola, FL South of I-10 Find me on the map! Zone: 8b/9a Name: Darkman Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,249 BananaBucks : 238,420 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 9,263 Times Was Thanked 1,582 Times in 702 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 243 Times	Re: Banana Progress I have a volunteer Watermelon that there is a good chance it came from bags of leaves I dumped. It is a large fruited variety, probably a charleston grey. I have had three off of it so far and have three more large ones ready and about twelve small ones still growing. __________________ Darkman in Pensacola AS ALWAYS IMHO AND YOUR MILEAGE MAY DIFFER!!!!!!!! Life - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong! Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable! Statistics - Data that analyst twist to support the insane opinions of those that pay them.

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Dreaminofthetropics Dreaminofthetropics's Photo Gallery Location: Bronson, FL Zone: 8-9 Name: Kat Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 424 BananaBucks : 120,008 Feedback: 3 / 100% Said "Thanks" 422 Times Was Thanked 549 Times in 173 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 29 Times	Re: Banana Progress So, I haven’t updated in a LONG time! I only have one banana photo today to share and also photos of my new greenhouse. We put the plastic on today. We haven’t framed the ends, but we’re getting there. My poor yard has been neglected the last couple months with work and school taking forefront. I now am done with the semester and going to take a few months break from school! So, hopefully I will have more photos to share with everyone shortly and will be able to post more on bananas! I miss my friends on here and chatting! I miss my yard too LOL! So, the first photo is my Lavender Orinata taken today blooming beautifully out in the yard! The rest are the new greenhouse (with my kids inside) and also my tangerine’s that were the only ones really left on the tree (they were hidden behind canna’s we cut back to the ground today!) Hope everyone had a great Christmas  __________________ Kat Check out my website http://www.ilovemyplants.com Intellectual property has the shelf life of a banana. Bill Gates

05-15-2012, 11:03 AM	#119 (permalink)
Dreaminofthetropics Dreaminofthetropics's Photo Gallery Location: Bronson, FL Zone: 8-9 Name: Kat Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 424 BananaBucks : 120,008 Feedback: 3 / 100% Said "Thanks" 422 Times Was Thanked 549 Times in 173 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 29 Times	Re: Banana Progress Update Bananas around hot tub Don't have too many pics, but definitely will post more soon! Here is the back around our new hot tub (that isn't working which is driving me crazy) and my costus blooming as well Costus Barbados Blooming txzj pxzj26745 txzj19 __________________ Kat Check out my website http://www.ilovemyplants.com Intellectual property has the shelf life of a banana. Bill Gates

05-15-2012, 11:43 AM	#120 (permalink)
Dreaminofthetropics Dreaminofthetropics's Photo Gallery Location: Bronson, FL Zone: 8-9 Name: Kat Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 424 BananaBucks : 120,008 Feedback: 3 / 100% Said "Thanks" 422 Times Was Thanked 549 Times in 173 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 29 Times	Re: Banana Progress This is a "Brazilian Fruiting banana" I was given to by someone who collected it in Brazil! Ube that I got from Christ didn`t think it would come back Red Lady Papaya Papaya volunteer from Chris last year. Thought it was gone, you can see the stump where it died and it came back from the roots! Lavender ornata clump Dwarf Reds need to be planted Out front getting big. The only one that died to the ground is the closest which is a Monkey Fingers In front of the houes getting big Side of the house Close up of praying hands to show the size compared to the house I freaked out when I lost the main pseudostem of my African Rhino but alas the pup is growing fast Another shot of the bananas in the back yard excuse the mess Cannas and a saba in the corner Ornata pups My FHIA 21 is getting huge, the forefront is Pisang Raja which I thought I had lost but two pups came up Raja puri pup Siam Ruby with pups If you look close there are two! View from the back Ensete Maurelli need to go in the ground! Buddah belly bamboo from Chris its starting to take off Iban Musak, I thought I lost it when I planted in ground, but one pup survived txzj pxzj26745 txzj19 __________________ Kat Check out my website http://www.ilovemyplants.com Intellectual property has the shelf life of a banana. Bill Gates

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