Banana Primer with Pix - Page 2

harveyc · 08-07-2008, 12:36 AM

Abundant irrigation water???

I pumped about 29,000,000 gallons last week at a cost of about $340.

No, that was not for my banana patch!

mskitty38583 · 08-07-2008, 10:21 AM

my dad was stationed at coronado. we lived in military housing in murphy canyon. i could look out my bedroom window and see jack murphy stadium.( i remember when the beach boys played there) i know the area well. lol. been to sea world, and the san diego zoo....thats where i ment chester...he is mised dearly! knotts berry farm...and of course la jolla. if there is a beach in the world to miss its there. i went to school in east side s.d. cant remember the name of the school....balboa ave is one of the prettiest places ive seeen the euclaptist trees are just beautiful in the spring. oh so many memories....its the first place i ever ditched school at and the day i did the mcdonalds we were at ( and had just left) got hit by rival gangs. that showed me never to ditch school again. lol. but the think i thing i miss the most about s.d. is........ putt- putt. i love it!

microfarmer · 08-07-2008, 06:35 PM

Thank you Jon. I like the K.I.S.S. format too. The pics are wonderful. It feels like I'm getting to walk through your gardens. I have a long way to go before I get to 100 varieties of bananas.

I would love to visit, but will have to wait for next year. I just blew my wad on a trip to the White Mountain High Altitude Research Station for their open house.

I'll have to start planning the trip to San Diego, and saving money for the bananas I'll be buying, now...

See you next year!

magicgreen · 08-08-2008, 01:54 AM

That was GREAT Jon!!!
It was simple and sweet!
I don't know how I missed this post!

Really enjoyed it; and you "tweaked" some areas about the banana I needed to know!!
Thanks alot!!!! Lynn...

jen · 08-08-2008, 12:34 PM

WOW! I'm a total newbie and that was AWESOME! I needed just that. I feel kinda banana smarter now.

Can I ask a ?...on your presentation please? It says...

4.
Flowering and Harvest

and then under this you have a close up picture of a flower with bananas the flower is red very red underneath and fuzzy on the top and more maroon color. That is an exact picture of my tree right now and I have no idea what kind it is. It is in my gallery.

What kind of banana tree is that???

pitangadiego · 08-08-2008, 01:32 PM

Jen, I'd have to check. Most flowers look similar, but there are differences. The greater difference is in the male flowers, which come later, and which can be used to identify varieties sort of like the colors and feathers on birds.

jen · 08-08-2008, 02:06 PM

Gotcha. I guess I will wait and see. Thanks. This is all totally new to me. I also sent an email to encanto farms...is that you? I am very close to San Diego and was wondering if they have an on site nursery or if it just online.

Thanks for the quick reply and the good info. I will wait for the flower to finish blooming and post some more pictures for you Banana gurus to figure out.

Jen

Rmplmnz · 08-09-2008, 10:18 PM

Sounds awesome..if only I had known you before my brother retired from the Navy (last 4 years stationed at El Centro NAS).

Just curious..what do you do with all the fruit?

We sell Carambolas and a few other things to a local Asian market.

Bananas we usually dehydrate what we can not eat/give away fresh.

Figs are awesome (the FL nematodes love them as well..lol).

Chris

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Originally Posted by pitangadiego

mskitty, you are way overdue a visit.

It is pretty tough, having to live in San Diego, and all. My friends in the colder climates only have to garden six months of the year. And then they have six months off in the winter. Nobody in Michigan has to worry about watering plants in January, or even mowing the lawn (I don't have any, unless you count the sugar cane as a grass (it is), and you have a very big lawn mower).

San Diego has so many wonderful things to see, do, enjoy; an extremely varied commercial fruit, plant, and nursery industry (Cactus to Macadamias, Dragon Fruit to Figs, almost anything grown anywhere in the world).

Fall is a fabulous time to visit, when the weather is cooler, the Santa Ana winds make the sky sparkle, and rain almost never, ever spoils you ability to go, see and do anything your heart desires.

Did I mention the World Famous Zoo, Sea World, surfing, breweries, Quail Gardens, Miramar Air show...

Visitors are always welcome.

harveyc · 08-09-2008, 11:12 PM

I've sampled bananas each time I visited Jon. I think he gets lots of company!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rmplmnz

Sounds awesome..if only I had known you before my brother retired from the Navy (last 4 years stationed at El Centro NAS).

Just curious..what do you do with all the fruit?

We sell Carambolas and a few other things to a local Asian market.

Bananas we usually dehydrate what we can not eat/give away fresh.

Figs are awesome (the FL nematodes love them as well..lol).

Chris

pitangadiego · 08-09-2008, 11:29 PM

Eat what you can, share the rest. There is banana bread, banan cream pie, banana splits, etc. when it is necessary to transcend peel and eat.

microfarmer · 08-11-2008, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitangadiego

Eat what you can, share the rest.

Eat what you can, and what you can't, you can...

(as in preserve

).

mskitty38583 · 08-11-2008, 08:56 PM

slice the nanas dip them in honey and dehydrate for nana chips.

pitangadiego · 08-12-2008, 01:12 PM

That sounds like more work than peel and eat.

harveyc · 08-12-2008, 01:34 PM

Jon, when you find the time, I think it would be helpful to expand comments on pup removal. I'm especially having a problem what to do when a plant is starting to fruit and ends up with pups circling the entire plant with four or so pups. For instance, right now my Dwarf Brazilian has an older pup as tall as the main plant which bloomed 5-6 weeks ago and then three more pups which came up 4-8 weeks ago. I'd like to keep the older one and one of the new ones where they are at, but am afraid of disturbing the main plant too much and delaying maturation of the fruit. On the other hand, the fruit probably won't ripen until November and the pups will have slowed down by then and transplanting them into the ground in cooler weather could be risky. Is it better to just remove one pup now, let the roots of the main plant grow back for a few weeks, and then remove another?

My hesitation in pup removal has sometimes lead to a mess with a mat having way too many pups. When they are too large, am I better off just whacking (a term first used here by Jarred, if I'm not mistaken) them back.

Do pups provide any food for the main corm or does it just go the other direction? I know you've left old fruited plants in a mat for an extended period, figuring it provides food for the mat. I'm just wondering if there is any significant reason for not removing all pups if you want to (i.e., I'd like to get several mats of Dwarf Brazilian going).

Thanks,

Harvey

Rmplmnz · 08-12-2008, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitangadiego

That sounds like more work than peel and eat.

Ha ha..yep...peel and eat is always best.

When we have eaten/shared all we can we cut them in half length wise (mostly the smaller bananas..Saba, various lady finger, etc.,) and throw them in the dehydrator (fast and easy).

Rmplmnz · 08-12-2008, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harveyc

Jon, when you find the time, I think it would be helpful to expand comments on pup removal. I'm especially having a problem what to do when a plant is starting to fruit and ends up with pups circling the entire plant with four or so pups. For instance, right now my Dwarf Brazilian has an older pup as tall as the main plant which bloomed 5-6 weeks ago and then three more pups which came up 4-8 weeks ago. I'd like to keep the older one and one of the new ones where they are at, but am afraid of disturbing the main plant too much and delaying maturation of the fruit. On the other hand, the fruit probably won't ripen until November and the pups will have slowed down by then and transplanting them into the ground in cooler weather could be risky. Is it better to just remove one pup now, let the roots of the main plant grow back for a few weeks, and then remove another?

My hesitation in pup removal has sometimes lead to a mess with a mat having way too many pups. When they are too large, am I better off just whacking (a term first used here by Jarred, if I'm not mistaken) them back.

Do pups provide any food for the main corm or does it just go the other direction? I know you've left old fruited plants in a mat for an extended period, figuring it provides food for the mat. I'm just wondering if there is any significant reason for not removing all pups if you want to (i.e., I'd like to get several mats of Dwarf Brazilian going).

Thanks,

Harvey

I just cut the pups off right below ground level.

microfarmer · 08-12-2008, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitangadiego

That sounds like more work than peel and eat.

Yep, a middle step called processing....

mskitty38583 · 08-12-2008, 03:03 PM

it is a little work but it is well worth it! i made 4 loaves of nana bread last night and ohhhh it was so good.

Rmplmnz · 08-12-2008, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mskitty38583

it is a little work but it is well worth it! i made 4 loaves of nana bread last night and ohhhh it was so good.

4 loaves..hmmnnnn..sounds like enough to share

When is the party?

Anyone ever make banana wine (other than Chong...I am sure..lol)?

microfarmer · 08-12-2008, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rmplmnz

4 loaves..hmmnnnn..sounds like enough to share

It sounds like she was planning to share when she made so many

My bananas aren't ready for goodies yet, but I just picked the last of my peaches, and practiced my baking skills on a nice Piled High Peach Pie, Peach Cobbler, and Almond Peach Struesel Dessert. All 3 recipes are from Epicurious.com...in case your wondering...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rmplmnz

Anyone ever make banana wine (other than Chong...I am sure..lol)?

JoeReal makes some wonderful banana wine, if I recall correctly.

08-07-2008, 12:36 AM	#21 (permalink)
harveyc Been nuts, gone bananas harveyc's Photo Gallery Location: Isleton, Calif Find me on the map! Zone: 9b Name: Harvey Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5,117 BananaBucks : 260,409 Feedback: 5 / 100% Said "Thanks" 6,024 Times Was Thanked 4,453 Times in 1,894 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,785 Times	Re: Banana Primer with Pix Abundant irrigation water??? I pumped about 29,000,000 gallons last week at a cost of about $340. No, that was not for my banana patch! __________________

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mskitty38583 banana junkie mskitty38583 's Photo Gallery Location: north carolina Find me on the map! Zone: 7b Name: mskitty Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,071 BananaBucks : 189,098 Feedback: 26 / 100% Said "Thanks" 82 Times Was Thanked 890 Times in 617 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 136 Times	Re: Banana Primer with Pix my dad was stationed at coronado. we lived in military housing in murphy canyon. i could look out my bedroom window and see jack murphy stadium.( i remember when the beach boys played there) i know the area well. lol. been to sea world, and the san diego zoo....thats where i ment chester...he is mised dearly! knotts berry farm...and of course la jolla. if there is a beach in the world to miss its there. i went to school in east side s.d. cant remember the name of the school....balboa ave is one of the prettiest places ive seeen the euclaptist trees are just beautiful in the spring. oh so many memories....its the first place i ever ditched school at and the day i did the mcdonalds we were at ( and had just left) got hit by rival gangs. that showed me never to ditch school again. lol. but the think i thing i miss the most about s.d. is........ putt- putt. i love it! __________________ WELCOME TO THE GATOR NATION

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magicgreen magicgreen's Photo Gallery Location: cincinnati OH. Z6 Find me on the map! Zone: Z6 Name: Lynn Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 840 BananaBucks : 17,381 Feedback: 8 / 100% Said "Thanks" 422 Times Was Thanked 208 Times in 141 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 124 Times	Re: Banana Primer with Pix That was GREAT Jon!!! It was simple and sweet! I don't know how I missed this post! Really enjoyed it; and you "tweaked" some areas about the banana I needed to know!! Thanks alot!!!! Lynn... __________________ (Started growing bananas July 2007) (Zone 6)

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jen jen's Photo Gallery Zone: 10 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 215 BananaBucks : 65,416 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 56 Times Was Thanked 174 Times in 66 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times	Re: Banana Primer with Pix Gotcha. I guess I will wait and see. Thanks. This is all totally new to me. I also sent an email to encanto farms...is that you? I am very close to San Diego and was wondering if they have an on site nursery or if it just online. Thanks for the quick reply and the good info. I will wait for the flower to finish blooming and post some more pictures for you Banana gurus to figure out. Jen

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harveyc Been nuts, gone bananas harveyc's Photo Gallery Location: Isleton, Calif Find me on the map! Zone: 9b Name: Harvey Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5,117 BananaBucks : 260,409 Feedback: 5 / 100% Said "Thanks" 6,024 Times Was Thanked 4,453 Times in 1,894 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,785 Times	Re: Banana Primer with Pix Jon, when you find the time, I think it would be helpful to expand comments on pup removal. I'm especially having a problem what to do when a plant is starting to fruit and ends up with pups circling the entire plant with four or so pups. For instance, right now my Dwarf Brazilian has an older pup as tall as the main plant which bloomed 5-6 weeks ago and then three more pups which came up 4-8 weeks ago. I'd like to keep the older one and one of the new ones where they are at, but am afraid of disturbing the main plant too much and delaying maturation of the fruit. On the other hand, the fruit probably won't ripen until November and the pups will have slowed down by then and transplanting them into the ground in cooler weather could be risky. Is it better to just remove one pup now, let the roots of the main plant grow back for a few weeks, and then remove another? My hesitation in pup removal has sometimes lead to a mess with a mat having way too many pups. When they are too large, am I better off just whacking (a term first used here by Jarred, if I'm not mistaken) them back. Do pups provide any food for the main corm or does it just go the other direction? I know you've left old fruited plants in a mat for an extended period, figuring it provides food for the mat. I'm just wondering if there is any significant reason for not removing all pups if you want to (i.e., I'd like to get several mats of Dwarf Brazilian going). Thanks, Harvey __________________

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