Apple banana?
 

I have either a apple or an ice cream banana plant that is sending out a bloom. The plant is 11 feet 6 inches, and about 27 inches in circumference. Do you know which variety it is?


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congrats on the flower :08:

BUT at this time your guess will be just as good as anybodies. you will need a full cycle of pic; bananas as they emerge, complete pic of the plant, etc. all the way to when you eat one. the length of the banana itself before being eaten is necessary to identifying your plant.

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I doubt it is Ice Cream. Trunk is too sleek and clean. If you bought it as an Ice Cream, there is a good possibility that it is really Misi Luki, AKA Namwah. It will be obvious soon when the fruit forms.

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Apple bananas where I live are quite tall in contrast to the small fruit they make. Here you would expect to see a 15 - 20 ft p-stem.

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Hello all!!! Here is the update. BTW, the bananas on the first hand are 4 inches long. The ones in the second hand are 3 1/2 inches long. And the rest are 3 inches long.

NOTE THE 10 FOOT ROOF
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NOTE ANY MARKINGS THAT ARE ON APPLE BANANA TREES (plants)
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if you were wondering, those marks aren't skuffing
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In some other post, I think someone said that apple banana leaves kind of stick up straight...…….:drum::2723:

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Looks like Namwa to me but the leaves do seem a bit more upright than my Namwas. My understanding is that Blue Java (Ice Cream) tend to lean quite a bit and yours have pretty straight pstems plus Blue Java individual fingers sorta attach directly to the peduncle and Namwa attach through a platform/pad.

I'm saying Namwa but I don't know what an Apple plant looks like.

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Akula, it was leaning a TINY bit, so I supported it...……...:08::0517::nanadrink::sumbrero:

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Do any of you have any idea how long it will be intill ice cream bananas take on the blueish hue?

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Well, if its a Namwa you will probably have at least a 150 bananas. Your plant looks pretty healthy and has a good number of leaves for fruit development. My understanding is that Namwa ripen much faster than Apple (Manzano or Brazilian).

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LOL. Namwa can lean too! Take a look at my patch.

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The blue color is immediate when the fruit forms. Yo0u don't have to wait for it.

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Will post update when all hands have formed (and it starts making male bananas):goteam::03::08::woohoonaner::woohoonaner::woohoonaner:

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In some post from 2007 or 2008, someone said that there are Hawaiian apple bananas, and then there was some other apple banana variety. The way to recognize the Hawaiian apple, is that all of the petals/male bananas stick to the tail. The other apple banana didn't have any petals/male bananas on the tail. Then the bare tail, like on a icececream. And are 'java bananas REALLY that blue?:0519:

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As you refer to Hawaiian Apple is what it's call Musa Brazilian.....There is two Musa Brazilian Varieties.....Musa Dwarf Brazilian has persistent male flowers and bracts for a "dirty/messy" look rachis......Musa Tall Brazilian flowers and bracts falls off right away for a clean look rachis.....




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In addition to the Brazilian as described by Hector above, sometimes people (probably not in Hawaii) refer to the Manzano banana as an Apple too which can create confusion. My understanding is that the Manzano does not have persisent male flowers.

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Hi!!!!! Me again. Is it just me, or do these Manzano/apple banana plants, from a post in 2006, called, "My fourth Apple bloom!" Look like mine? (Except for the height) Notice the black markings and upright leaves.........
other apple

my apple?

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Update: The bananas are kind of curling?

Favorite picture: because it makes the bunch look bigger than it is:D:ha:
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Hiding
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Had to sneak into neighbors yard:ha:
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Any thoughts?:woohoonaner:

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try posting photos not link in your gmail account.

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Do you think I can harvest test fingers yet? Are they big enough? thanks

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why not just wait until one stats turning yellow? Why rush it?

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Good point......... I just want to see how far away from ripening they are.

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well, you'll know when they start turning yellow. :)
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yes, that would DEFFINITLY be a good indicator!!! :ha: :ha: :ha:


My sole reason for taking test fingers is to see if they ripen and taste great- then I know I can harvest them if there is a bad frost on the way. If they taste bad in any way, then I know I have to put a blanket or sheet around the bunch to protect from damaging frost/leave the bunch on longer. if we never get any killing frost, I will leave the bunches on till they ripen. (always ideal of course)


Anyhow, should I wait longer to take test fingers or should I take one or two to see how they taste? :nanadrink:

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I suggest waiting a bit longer. They seem to to have hard corners and probably should get a more rounder look.

Your temps over the next month look pretty good so I wouldn't rush. As long as your other banana plants are still growing (putting out new leaves) then the bunch should be developing.

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Good advice from a master banana grower!!!!!! Will do :08:

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Thanks BBJ.

I think I may have outsmarted myself this week. I double bagged my bunches in anticipation of this past week's cold front but the temp dropped lower than I expected. I'm afraid I should have harvested the bunches. In a couple days I'll check and see if they made it. The main patch with the bunches looks like it got hit with an A bomb. I covered the new patch and those plants look okay.

I'm on the slope of hope with fingers crossed.

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Hope the bunches made it and most of them are filled out enough to ripen once harvested! I think it’s showing signs that’s it is going to be an early/ harder winter! Ty told me that he had a 21 Fahrenheit night in east Texas! And on the gulf it was 25f!!!!!!

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be patient and let the bunch fill out.

its usually take about 3-4 months to ripen in Florida but it also depends the variety and conditions.

May take an extra month if we get cold

As you may already know, Manzanos can be almost completely dark on the outside to the point of throwing away and boom! its perfect to eat lol!

I don't think its a manzano.

keep us updated

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sorry to hear. hopefully their ok.

I missed that bullet. went to 39 but didn't get any frost, everybody looks good so far.

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I think you might have nailed it Greenie!!!! The test finger ripened after maybe five days and it definitely wasn’t manzano😭 had a somewhat orange interior and tasted kinder like a plaintain.

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it happens lol!

on to the compost pile...been there done that:08:

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Well, finally, a banana ripened on the Bunch! :woohoonaner: can’t post pics now, but maybe tonight. Will probably harvest the whole thing in a couple days so the HORRIBLE neighbor doesn’t harvest them.

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if I do decide to rip out the stand, how should I go about doing it? thanks :08:

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Cut the tops of all and leave only about 2 foot.

Get a pick and shovel end start working around the mat until you get into the main plant.

Loosen the soil until the full corms pops out

Break roots , move with hands etc...

Have fun 🤪

What are you thinking to replace with?

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wheres the pictures? and any thoughts on what it is?

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Thinking of replacing it with the real manzano banana. Thanks for the tips!

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Sorry, I tried to upload pics yesterday but the internet was too slow. I’ll try today. I don’t have ANY idea what it is 😎

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Hello!!! is I normal to have blackish grey fungus spots on this tree? Sorry for the wait...….. Here's the pics:








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they look like they really havent filled out yet.. taste any good?

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Not sure why they never really filled out.......... mabye kinder like orinoco that never get plump. They tasted fine.....l.l. If I had more room I would leave them.

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Weird. Could these be some kind of Gro Michelle? The peel reminds me of a store bought banana. Thick peel, breaks easily, banana strings remain on banana, tastes somewhat like a store bought banana with hint of plaintain. Also pretty big. Thoughts? Thanks

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I ripped out the clump, but there was a pipe problem beneath maybe caused by the corm. So no more bananas going there 😥😥😭😭







Also my other namwa clump is putting out a bloom for the first time :rollerbananadone::rollerbananadone::rollerbananadone::rollerban anadone::rollerbananadone::parachutenanner::parachutenanner::par achutenanner::eek:.......

Any suggestions on how to protect the bunch/leaves if we get a frost? Don’t Want to lose the bunch if I can help it!!!

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So I was just watching a tour of goingbananas tasting tree (Don and Katie) made by John Kohlor (learn organic gardening at growing your greens) and one of the varieties I was like, that looks like my mystery banana! What is it? So he goes up to the tag. Is said SH 3640. I actually looks like mine. Identical. Even to the fact that they were not filled. I also noticed that Hectors SH's also have ridges. Any thoughts?

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Here is mine

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Don't know what you got there but congratulations! Nice bunch!

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Plant bloomed again, this time on my neighbors property (the good neighbor. Lol 😂) This plant is kinda stunted, because it was the biggest pup I transplanted, and never really got growing again. But it fruited! Any ID?

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My mother has several Orinoco that bloomed and look just like that, the flowers are skinny like that too