All-red thai banana slowly making its way into the US

tropicalkid · 06-30-2006, 04:39 PM

Hi:
I saw this plant on E-bay. While very rare, I don't want to bid on it because I dont know how well the "cold sensitive" term applies to it, so I just wanted to post a link here in order to see if someone in this forums and more in the southern areas might be interested. If somebody here grabs it, please keep posted on how well does the plant do:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Red-Thai-Ba...QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks,
Carlos(tropicalkid)

momoese · 06-30-2006, 05:58 PM

Looks like a TC to me. A little on the small side to be a pup. If I'm right that's real good news for folks who don't want to break the bank to get one!

Does anyone here know the seller or any more info?

size123 · 07-02-2006, 11:43 AM

This plant is not from tissue culture, it is directly from Thailand and is an offset of a plant growing there. I have gotten one myself from the same source and seen the mature plants growing there, they are fast growers and beautiful.

As for cold-hardiness, since the plant is barely out of Thailand (and I have not even seen it in other Asian countries), I doubt that any data regarding cold-hardiness is available. Mine has been down to 55F in my greenhouse, but that is all the information I have.

MediaHound · 07-02-2006, 12:07 PM

Welcome to the forum!
How many of these banana plants do you own?
Do you plan to tissue culture them now, or in the future?

size123 · 07-02-2006, 12:59 PM

I only own one of the Thai red bananas at the present. I know very little about tissue culture to do them myself and I am very ambivalent about turning it over to the big TC operations.

Gabe15 · 07-02-2006, 01:56 PM

The plant is orginally from Indonesia and was found in the wild. I was first showed a picture of it almost 3 years ago, and now its finally becoming somewhat available. The orginal one was sold for $2000, then they were wholesale for $500 a peice, then I heard of them being $100 at some markets in Thailand.

size123 · 07-02-2006, 02:49 PM

I have heard several locales mentioned as the origin of this banana, Palawan and West Irian.

PaulOdin · 07-02-2006, 02:51 PM

Gabe, nice to see 'moderator' on your tag.
Is any more known about this red Thai? Strictly ornamental? Scientific name?? The guy selling it on ebay lives about 30 miles from me, and I'm tempted!

size123 · 07-02-2006, 03:49 PM

I have seen maybe a half-dozen specimens of the Thai red banana that I think were mature, probably around eight feet tall, and I have never seen any fruit on them, so I don't know. It is a good grower, from what I have seen, but it needs high light to color up well.

Gabe15 · 07-02-2006, 09:33 PM

It was found in the wild and is definetly a seeded banana. Based on my observations I think its most probably a sport of one of the subspecies of Musa acuminata, or perhaps a new subspecies of its own if there are more maybe. No scientific research has been published on it yet, so it does not have an official name and most likely will not for a few years at least, if it is indeed worthy of its own name.

bigdog · 07-03-2006, 06:35 PM

Wow! There it is... I was hoping to have one by now, but it was not meant to be I guess. Ah, but one day I shall have it!!

A zone 9b banana, eh? Bummer. Too bad that one's not cold-hardy. It sure would look good in my backyard, I tell you.

I just pushed the price up to $250, lol. Sorry 'bout that, Mr. High Bidder.

tropicalkid · 07-05-2006, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulOdin

Gabe, nice to see 'moderator' on your tag.
Is any more known about this red Thai? Strictly ornamental? Scientific name?? The guy selling it on ebay lives about 30 miles from me, and I'm tempted!

Have you seen it personally yet?

Keep us posted.

Carlos

johndeltav · 07-06-2006, 10:56 AM

Hi bigdog,Have you tried sniping items on ebay?Bidding at the last seconds has saved me hundreds on ebay auctions.The seller and ebay want bidders to get into a bidding war.It may have not made any difference on this item.floridaplantsman may have an even higher max. bid than $460.If he had not known your were interested he might not had such a high max bid.John

bigdog · 07-06-2006, 11:04 AM

Yeah, I've tried it. I wasn't going to go over $400. He outbid me at the last possible second

. Actually, somebody else outbid me first, then he had the final bid of $460 with 4 seconds to spare. Something tells me his maximum was higher than that!

I'm still waiting on one that I was supposed to have by now. The person that has them doesn't seem to want to let them go just yet, so I've about given up on him.

Oh well, maybe they'll be in tissue culture one day soon.

momoese · 07-06-2006, 11:27 AM

I won't be buying one of those anytime soon.

tropicalkid · 07-06-2006, 12:42 PM

I wonder if someone here knows floridaplantsman, so we can track how does the plant do.

Carlos

MediaHound · 07-06-2006, 12:52 PM

Congrats on the sale, Size!

Could you ask the buyer if they would like to join bananas.org? We're curious what's in store for this plant, it'd be good to keep in touch with him.

Thanks in advance!

tropicalkid · 07-14-2006, 11:38 AM

Any new findings on this???

ryan · 07-21-2006, 09:46 PM

ooops... i've posted another thread on this one. with pictures

tropicalkid · 08-07-2006, 09:51 AM

Any updates???

06-30-2006, 04:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
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06-30-2006, 05:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
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size123 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4 BananaBucks : 767 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: All-red thai banana slowly making its way into the US This plant is not from tissue culture, it is directly from Thailand and is an offset of a plant growing there. I have gotten one myself from the same source and seen the mature plants growing there, they are fast growers and beautiful. As for cold-hardiness, since the plant is barely out of Thailand (and I have not even seen it in other Asian countries), I doubt that any data regarding cold-hardiness is available. Mine has been down to 55F in my greenhouse, but that is all the information I have.

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size123 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4 BananaBucks : 767 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: All-red thai banana slowly making its way into the US I have seen maybe a half-dozen specimens of the Thai red banana that I think were mature, probably around eight feet tall, and I have never seen any fruit on them, so I don't know. It is a good grower, from what I have seen, but it needs high light to color up well.

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