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robguz24

11-16-2014 02:29 PM

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Well ultimately they all come from Hawaiian stock. My 3 mats vary a bit even within the same mat. All from 1 plant bought 4 years ago.

PR-Giants

11-16-2014 06:39 PM

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This is what it looked like before hearing about going to lower ohio.

different kinds of nutrients and fertilizers...:ha:.....

or.........:08:........maybe.........:lurk:.....

they just produce more green as they mature so they can fill their fruit....

Good Luck on your 3 year experiment.:waving:

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Originally Posted by cincinnana (Post 254076)

Now that is cool !!.

Have you had any other sports or leaf flushes yet where the white turns to a light butter color?
I do not have enough observation time yet but for me it seems this change happens once the plant is under CFL's but not certain.
I have not nailed down the variables yet......Exhale..:ha:

I took some pics but have misplaced them......Inhale...:ha:

Scarves are still on sale...:D

cincinnana

11-17-2014 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 254096)

This is what it looked like before hearing about going to lower ohio.

different kinds of nutrients and fertilizers...:ha:.....

or.........:08:........maybe.........:lurk:.....

they just produce more green as they mature so they can fill their fruit....

Here is a photo after your plant has been in the Natti for a month or so.
Scaring the white out of it one new leaf at a time.

Looks I will have fruit at 4 feet if green leaves to fill the fruit holds true.:08:

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PR-Giants

11-18-2014 09:00 AM

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Relax....

..........:ha:..........cincy....

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you're not getting a bud at 4 feet................:08:.....

your little buddy still needs further maturation...............

.

with a little more experience.......nevermind.......:woohoonaner:.....

I've seen plants go from very white to almost entirely green before they're 15 inches........

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.....:waving:.............

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Originally Posted by cincinnana (Post 254143)

Lau	11-18-2014 09:13 AM

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I have a question if the banana plant reverts back to green will the bananas still be variegated?

PR-Giants

11-18-2014 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lau (Post 254154)

I have a question if the banana plant reverts back to green will the bananas still be variegated?

If you're referring to the fingers, I wouldn't expect it. I've got one that's being allowed to shoot for that very same question...it should take a few more days.

merce3

11-18-2014 06:34 PM

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how do the bananas taste? are they just a novelty?

robguz24

11-18-2014 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by merce3 (Post 254172)

how do the bananas taste? are they just a novelty?

They are very good cooked (some yellow) and just ok eaten very ripe. I think any type of Maolis are my favorite cooked, though I've only tried a dozen or so different types of cooking bananas cooked.

bananimal

11-19-2014 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by robguz24 (Post 254180)

They are very good cooked (some yellow) and just ok eaten very ripe. I think any type of Maolis are my favorite cooked, though I've only tried a dozen or so different types of cooking bananas cooked.

How cooked?

robguz24

11-19-2014 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bananimal (Post 254185)

How cooked?

Mostly I just slice them about 1" thick, steam them, and serve with salt. My other standard is sautéing onions in coconut oil, then adding coconut milk and the steamed bananas. Other than that I add them to curries, stir fries, or make mashed bananas like mashed potatoes.

PR-Giants

11-19-2014 09:09 AM

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Do you grow platanos and if so how do they compare in the same recipes?

I never had a recipe that wasn't improved by substituting the cooking bananas with platanos.

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Originally Posted by robguz24 (Post 254187)

robguz24

11-19-2014 11:56 AM

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I have some that haven't flowered yet. Had 2 African Rhino Horn (supposed to be anyway) that died. I have some local TC ones labeled "Giant Plantain" and recently bought a pup of Dwarf Puerto Rican Plantain, but these are all only 2-3 months along. Have bought some plantains to eat that are grown locally and they're very good, but no idea what type they are.

bananimal

11-19-2014 03:50 PM

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Rob --- have you ever made green bananas like they do in PR? Called Guineos en Escabeche. Basically peeled, split in half lengthwise and cut in pieces 3 inches or so. Simmered in water till tender. Sautee briefly --- sliced onions and chopped garlic in good olive oil. Add banana pieces and simmer to coat well. Place all in shallow bowl and sit at room temp for a few hours. Eat as side dish with dinner or lunch. So simple and soooooooooo good!

I will do this with my Ae Ae bunch when the next bunch is ready in the spring.

lmswayne

11-20-2014 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bananimal (Post 254196)

You have some really good recipes. thank you.

Steve L

12-05-2014 10:39 AM

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This has happened to me more times than I like to remember. Ae Ae are, for me, the most difficult and problematic banana to grow. The only treatment I have found that will work in your situation, is to clean off all of the rot with a knife. If there are any roots that are white, try to leave them on. Get your hands on some powdered sulfur. Completely cover the corm with the sulfur and set the corm on a shelf and keep it dry. Don't try to replant it for a week. If you need to change out the sulfur, do so, and re-coat the corm again. Plant the corm in dry potting mix. Don't water. Put the pot on concrete in the sun so that the bottom of the pot gets good heat. Don't water for a good week or so and keep it out of the rain during this time. After a week, slightly wet the soil, and keep it in the sun. If you are lucky, and it's a big if, you will get a new shoot coming off the corm. Don't water much until the corm sprouts roots. Good Luck.

Steve

lmswayne

12-05-2014 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kubali (Post 254594)

Very sad day today for me, my AeAe is dying had been doing real good pushing up a new leaf every other week. but I could do nothing about all the rain he have got over the last 2 months. in October we got 8 inches of rain then in nov we got 5 inches and it never rains in November. I wish now I did not plant it in the ground I should of kept it in the container.it was looking a little rough but I thought it was do the winter coming on. then Monday I went to cut one of the dead leaves and the whole stem fell off.so I dug it up and the corm was full of rot I cleaned all the black mush off it dipped it in a bleach and water mix to kill some of the mold from rot and now the corm is the size of a small apple, so for those who pray, please keep my plant in your prayers. I thank you very much in advance for your help. This plant is just not a plant to me it has a very special meaning to me, and if it dies a part of me will also it really means the world to me ,so if anyone might know of something I could do to try and help the corm recover I would really appreciate any help at all. alot of you know why this is a special plant to me so if it don't make it will be a very blue Christmas for me.....

I'm sorry to hear about your plant kub . You know you are in the on the list I will add the plant as well.
The star fruit was a huge hit on my thanksgiving table everyone sends there thanks as do I.
Linda

edzone9

12-05-2014 06:36 PM

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I have one arriving soon and could use some growing advice , do they like full sun ?

Thanks ed

Richard

12-05-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kubali (Post 254594)

Very sad day today ...

Kubali,
My condolences. Somewhere on bananas.org years ago pitangadiego talks about his Ae Ae that up and died for no apparent reason overnight. I had seen this plant in his yard maybe two weeks prior. The plant was in great shape and Jon is a skilled horticulturist. So you should feel no shame in the loss of your plant. It is a stickler for cultural conditions and even then, it appears that the systemic disorder that causes its variegation also causes occasional untimely demise.

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Originally Posted by edzone9 (Post 254603)

I have one arriving soon and could use some growing advice , do they like full sun ?

In our environment: filtered sunlight.

cincinnana

12-05-2014 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by edzone9 (Post 254603)

I have one arriving soon and could use some growing advice , do they like full sun ?

Thanks ed

Saw a nice healthy mat just three hours south of you....in full sun.

And a nice healthy eight ft plant 900 miles to the north ......in part sun and cfl's.
:woohoonaner:

edzone9

12-05-2014 07:13 PM

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I will monitor it and see how she does in full and partial shade..
Cant wait :08:

cincinnana

12-05-2014 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by edzone9 (Post 254609)

I will monitor it and see how she does in full and partial shade..
Cant wait :08:

Loves a wheelbarrow and snow........just a teaser......couldn't resist..... happy for you!!:08:
Very easy to grow... but to keep alive is another story.

Last container change for the season before he goes in the house.

mushtaq86

12-06-2014 10:47 AM

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What also I have found out about Ae Ae is the more variegated, the less hardy to cold,and harder to grow

bananimal

12-07-2014 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mushtaq86 (Post 254630)

What also I have found out about Ae Ae is the more variegated, the less hardy to cold,and harder to grow

There are different strains of Ae Ae. The Ae Ae I grow is the more resistant strain. Original source was the Miami Rare Fruit Council International – RFCI | Tropical Fruit ...tropicalfruitnews.org/

It must still be protected from cold. This is when you water very sparingly.

It's a chimera - give it a break!

cincinnana

12-07-2014 09:40 PM

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Here is a similar plant .....in question....mine. The Cincinnanni..:p
I took this pic from a step ladder.
Tree ferns in the foreground.

I promise to abuse this plant to show the folks that this PLANT IS JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PLANT and to treat it as "just another heat sensitive tropical.

However I reserve the right to drag this not cool tolerant plant outside to disillusion you that this plant is cool tolerant by taking photos that will make you think that you can do it also......not. This plant for me stops thriving at 70f.

12 foot ceilings in basement are shown to show height... there are 90 plants in the background........pretty much in misery .
This plant out grew my not cool tolerant Viente Cohol by 3x ....in one season.....but they are diff plants... Hmmm. But both plants are robust
This plant has a7ft stem 12 ft spread and is a few years old.
Multiple pups ......none viable yet.
Recent inspection of corm area reveals no baby bumps .
These plants in cooler climates(mine) seem to not pup freely...like some of my other banana plants.

Here is a pic of the peeper PR was asking about today.....no heat.... no growth
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Greenie

12-10-2014 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bananimal (Post 254683)

Dan,are you serious? I thought the vigorous strain was the one the I gave to Nanaman and he gave to you...which I know I have again when I went to your home to get the same strain I had...lol! I am confused.If you have an even more vigorous strain from the Fruit Council,then I will be paying you a visit real soon!!! Lol! :woohoonaner::2787:!:2750::2750:
Is the other one just more resistant to the cold than vigorous,in your opinion?

Pancrazio

12-10-2014 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cincinnana (Post 254684)

I promise to abuse this plant to show the folks that this PLANT IS JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PLANT and to treat it as "just another heat sensitive tropical.

I'm waiting for it!
A'e A'e is an interesting plant for sure, but hearing about its bad behaviour on cold temps, has been a letdown for me.
However I believe that unless this plant is proven more cold tolerant than Veinte Cohol, I can't grow it for lack of space.

Greenie

12-10-2014 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cincinnana (Post 254772)

I think it is time to start a family tree :ha:

Ancestry.com sounds like in this case is needed lol!

venturabananas

12-11-2014 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pancrazio (Post 254770)

A'e A'e is an interesting plant for sure, but hearing about its bad behaviour on cold temps, has been a letdown for me.
However I believe that unless this plant is proven more cold tolerant than Veinte Cohol, I can't grow it for lack of space.

From what I've seen A'e A'e is more cool tolerant than Veinte Cohol, which is not tolerant of cool at all. But VC is a fast-cycle variety, so if you have several months of tropical-like conditions, you might get fruit. A'e A'e is not a fast cycle variety.

bananimal

12-11-2014 07:02 PM

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I have 2 VC mats and 1 Ae Ae mat and they are both handling the recent cold pretty good. Time will tell,

edzone9

12-12-2014 04:45 PM

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That's Good news Dan ! I have an Ae Ae Pup coming my way tomorrow !:08::08:

PR-Giants

12-14-2014 12:56 PM

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I'm growing 4 different strains, 1 is too recent to assess, but out of the others Dan's strain would rank #3 for vigor, so it's probably more resistant to the cold.

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Originally Posted by Greenie (Post 254741)

Greenie

12-15-2014 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cincinnana (Post 254886)

PLEASE ...
Tell us what the other strain are called....or what you want to name them.
1....????
2....????
3....Dans. I have this strain...Cincinnanini
4....???
5...Sunfishes strain...:lurk:

This is funny:08: but in all seriousness,I have grown like many of us,different "strains" of plants.Maybe after years,genetics of one strain weaken and some are able to keep vigor.Yes,they are all the same
musa,but I can confirm,some are stronger -jnstropic(Jordan)has had his for over 30 years...I grew one of his Ae Ae for years(great Ae Ae) but it displayed different behaviors than others i grew.So,something is going on:lurk

PR-Giants

12-16-2014 10:35 AM

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When I lived in Cleveland, the Kosar years, we knew the folks in Lower Ohio were special ....

:p great concept......well played...:08:

Interesting, Periods & Question Marks, how's that naming system working out for you?

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Originally Posted by cincinnana (Post 254886)

PLEASE ...
Tell us what the other strain are called....or what you want to name them.
1....????
2....????
3....Dans. I have this strain...Cincinnanini
4....???
5...Sunfishes strain...:lurk:

exovetek

12-27-2014 10:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cincinnana (Post 254886)

PLEASE ...
Tell us what the other strain are called....or what you want to name them.
1....????
2....????
3....Dans. I have this strain...Cincinnanini
4....???
5...Sunfishes strain...:lurk:

I traded a "Florida" strain from Thailand for one of Tony's ("Sunfishes strain") so we can grow each of them next to each other to see if they are really different. So far the only difference I have noticed is that the "Florida" strain tends to have a bit more consistent white and grey, but that could just be random luck so far. I think the "Floridas" got their name from the Thai's introducing a'ea'e from Florida to Thailand and then back to the states. We'll see.

cincinnana

12-27-2014 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by exovetek (Post 255160)

Thats awesome that you can compare plants from two differnt sources.

I hope to get a couple more potted up so I may put them through the rigors of overwintering in the basement and to moniter the leaf color.

edzone9

12-28-2014 02:44 PM

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this is my !st Ae Ae, Hope it does well

cincinnana

12-28-2014 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by edzone9 (Post 255184)

this is my !st Ae Ae, Hope it does well

Looks good...I got one the had looked similar(brazillian). The plant took a bit to kick in but then it was just like some of my other plants. Good wishes to you.

I like the way your soiless mix looks ....nice and airy.

edzone9

12-28-2014 07:54 PM

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Haaaaaaaaaa Thanks Crossing Fingers!:08::08:

I think she likes the green house...
Ed

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