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Old 01-04-2008, 11:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My red and green forms, about the same age. The green one interestingly has a noticably different leaf shape.

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Old 01-05-2008, 12:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Nice, Gabe, they look happy in the greenhouse. Have you had any other pups besides the one read one? Some folks have reported pupping "frenzies" but mine, which is a bit smaller than yours, just has one small pup so far.
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Thats the only pup on either of them. Often TC plants will prematurely set out a lot of pups, but as is the case with the one shown, they are water suckers and not the best source for propagation.
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Gabe they look good, and so does that Greenhouse!
Whats that plant under the table on the left? Does it get big ? I like the variegation in the leaves. I need something like that in my backyard. Thanks, Magicgreen
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Whats that plant under the table on the left? Does it get big ? I like the variegation in the leaves. I need something like that in my backyard. Thanks, Magicgreen
I can't resist answering this question. The plant under the table looks like a form of Monstera Deliciosa. Sometimes called Water Plant because you can cut a stem, put it in water and it will grow. Even easier to grow than the Lucky Bamboo.

It can get big. When it does, the leaves get serrated and can even produce edible fruit (edible when ripe).

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Thats actually not my greenhouse, so I donʻt know what all the plants in there are really. Although the one under the table isnʻt Monstera deliciosa, Im pretty sure its a pothos vine, but i didnt look closely.
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thank you. i was wondering the same thing. the flowers almost remind me of a peace lily. the fruits are poisonous till they ripen. thats kind of scary. does that include brushing against it or just eating it? i have outside cats and dont want them into something thats gonna hurt them. do you know if they are a common plant one can aquire at a gh? thanks again for the info. i love the leaves.

if thats a pothos id love to have one.ive not seen one like that.its a beautiful plant.
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well, ive never tried putting them in my mouth, but im sure they are packed with calcium oxalate, but so are many other aroids. it wont harm you just to touch the plant, or probably even come into skin contact with the sap in small amounts (ive never had a problem), but when it gets in your mouth is where it starts to cause problems. it hurts pretty bad (I have experience with slightly unripe monstera fruit), so i dont think your cat would even want to eat it.
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. . . . . . . .. Although the one under the table isnʻt Monstera deliciosa, Im pretty sure its a pothos vine, but i didnt look closely.
Gabe, the name you quoted is more appropriate for that vine than what I called it, for accuracy sake. I was unfamiliar with the various sub-classes of the Araceae family. When I called it M.D., I was alluding to my experience in the Philippines when I was 9 or 10 years old and I planted several cuttings of this "Water Plant" (pothos) in the ground alongside our house. After a year or so, the vines had grown 18" leaves and were climbing up the walls of the house, blooming and fruiting. Until college, I didn't even know that "Monstera" was a scientific name for a plant that resembled it. But since it looked so much like my plants, I thought they were one and the same. Evidently, I wasn't so far off. In fact if you look at this link, they even say they are synonymous:
http://zipcodezoo.com/Plants/E/Epipremnum_pinnatum.asp
The enclosed photo even confirms my memory of my plants. They looked exactly like it.

In Dave's Garden forum, they have some considerable discussion about the impropriety or propriety of the name of this plant, or it's various forms. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/476583/

Suffice it to say, that if magicgreen wants a variegated climbing plant, whether it's a pothos vine or a Monstera Deliciosa, he'll have it.
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Thanks for your help Chong.
And you are correct, i will find it and get it! LOL
It almost looks like vareigated petasites (coltsfoot)
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Nice plants. So far ours outside have done well, even after last weeks cold spell. Last Wed. the high was only 48F and it got down to 31F. It was also vey windy and very low dewpoints. The bananas and traveler's trees in open exposed areas around down have more wind burn than cold damage. Our Siam's are in a wind protected spot and seemed to have fared with little damage.
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So far it seems that the siam is a much tougher banana then i thought it would be. Good news.
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Gabe........Next time you are at that greenhouse or talk to that person, could you ask them what that plant is under the table? PLEASE!
It even could be var. EE
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Looks kinda like a varigated philidendron. They were all over the place in western Mexican landscapes.


The green Siam ruby is really bright! Nice plants, Gabe.
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The green Siam ruby is really bright! Nice plants, Gabe.
The more common name for that plant climbing onto the palm tree is Monstera. Check out this URL: http://www.ccenassau.org/hort/fact_s...dron_mar00.pdf and the accompanying illustration on the following excerpt:
Long-leaved types that require support on bark or totem poles. Philodendron pertusum (Correctly known as Monstera deliciosa) - Juvenile form has perforated leaves that are irregularly shaped. Adult form has broad, thick leaves with many perforations. Common name - Swiss Cheese plant. A-1-11 DWM/ln reviewed RT 3/00 Philodendron cordatum. Monstera deliciosa
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Although Iʻm no expert in Aroids, I know Monstera deliciosa very well and am certain the plant in my photo is not M. deliciosa. I know some people who know Aroids well and will try to get a proper ID.
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That calcium oxalate tastes 100 times worse than a 9-volt battery, but something similar I recall. I munched on an ariod clipping after my dog spit it out and shook her head a bit, she likes to chew palm fronds and mistakenly picked up a clipping of a "persian palm" or such ariod last year. I wondered why, so I tasted it myself. Big mistake!

Anyway, great looking Siam Rubies!
Mine big potted clump got fried a bit from the recent cold weather here.
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