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Old 01-09-2008, 02:16 AM   #21 (permalink)
 
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is the plant under the table scindapsus aureus?
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It is Epipremnum aureum, Golden Pothos Vine. This is the common houseplant with small variegated leaves but if it can climb the leaves can get 1-2ft. long. There is also a solid green form ('Emerald Queen') and one with white variegation ('Marble Queen'). It is very common in central and southern Florida where it will climb to the tops of the tallest trees. It is very common around here in Orlando. This is diffrent than Monstera deliciosa. They are both aroids but not the same plant. M. deliciosa also climbs and gets a bigger leaf, up to 3 ft.long and has perforations. Now this one is often mistakenly called split leaf philodendron. That is an entirely different plant, Philodendron bipinnatifidum (selloum). It is self heading and doesn't climb like a vine. Both of these are also very common in the warmer parts of Florida.

The first photo is E. aureum, the 2nd M. deliciosa, the 3rd P. bipinnatifidum;






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Although Iʻm no expert in Aroids, I know Monstera deliciosa very well and am certain the plant in my photo is not M. deliciosa. I know some people who know Aroids well and will try to get a proper ID.
I agree with Gabe; it doesn't look like Monstera to me either. I'm pretty sure that it is just a robust form of Pothos (Epipremnum) vine. I used to grow a variety that looked just like this several years ago. Just my two cents worth.
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Eric nailed it, thanks!
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So far it seems that the siam is a much tougher banana then i thought it would be. Good news.
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I've still got my Siam outside under the patio table. Just been making a blanket cover around her at night. She has two leaves which are fading a bit, but a new leaf is pushing out. Which totally surprised me!
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Eric, Thankyou. I Hope to find this plant!!!!!!
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Eric, Thankyou. I Hope to find this plant!!!!!!
It should be easy to find, just about anywhere selling plants will have, check the floral section in your grocery store. To get big leaves like that the plant has to climb, either up something or along the ground.
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I've been training my Monstera to climb an Oak tree! It took pretty good to it, piece of cake. I can't wait till it looks like that picutre, thanks for posting Eric.
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That calcium oxalate tastes 100 times worse than a 9-volt battery, but something similar I recall. I munched on an ariod clipping after my dog spit it out and shook her head a bit, she likes to chew palm fronds and mistakenly picked up a clipping of a "persian palm" or such ariod last year. I wondered why, so I tasted it myself. Big mistake!

Anyway, great looking Siam Rubies!
Mine big potted clump got fried a bit from the recent cold weather here.
Dude, "After the Dog spit it out" ? , as Larry the Cable Guy would say, I don'nt care who ya r that thar was funny!!!!!!!!!
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makes you wonder about mediahound dont it??? note to you: if the dog wont eat it maybe you shouldnt either. rotflmao!!!
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Old 01-12-2008, 10:24 AM   #31 (permalink)
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The more common name for that plant climbing onto the palm tree is Monstera. Check out this URL: http://www.ccenassau.org/hort/fact_s...dron_mar00.pdf and the accompanying illustration on the following excerpt:
Long-leaved types that require support on bark or totem poles. Philodendron pertusum (Correctly known as Monstera deliciosa) - Juvenile form has perforated leaves that are irregularly shaped. Adult form has broad, thick leaves with many perforations. Common name - Swiss Cheese plant. A-1-11 DWM/ln reviewed RT 3/00 Philodendron cordatum. Monstera deliciosa
The leaves of pothos vine can become very large when the vine begins to climb verically. There is a picture of pothos vine in another thread here in which the vine sprawling on the ground looks just like the common pothos found at nurseries and grocery stores around here. But the vines that are climbing vertically have large philo looking leaves. I saw these same vines growing up palm trees while on vacation in Mexico. When I returned home I began searching the web and asking questions on forums to determine what type of vine it was. Then one day I noticed the same vine, identical in appearance, growing up the side of a house near where I work. As I drove by slowly I noticed it was growing out of pot that was sitting on the ground. Again, the vines that sprawled across the ground had small leaves. And the vine climbing the house had large leaves identical to the ones pictured climbing the palm tree. Once the leaves become larger they can develope splits which make them appear similar to monstera, but a closer look reveals no windows, just splits in the leaves. There are of course variegated forms of monstera, but golden pothos is far more common. Here is a link to some pictures of golden pothos producing bigger leaves once it starts growing upward.
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Old 01-13-2008, 08:48 PM   #32 (permalink)
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i found this in the hgt article i posted in the tiki hut.


(Monstera deliciosa)
Nothing says tropical foliage like Swiss cheese plant, appropriately named for its dissected foliage resembling the holes in a block of Swiss cheese. In tropical regions, Monstera produces an edible fruit that tastes like a combination of banana, mango and pineapple. The fruit can be used to flavor drinks and ice cream. The leaves of M. spruciana are used by the Shuar tribe in Amazonian Ecuador as an anti-inflammatory agent; according to ethnobotanist Dr. Bradley Bennett, it is thought to make an excellent treatment because its leaves are so large that, when heated, they can be applied to treat a large area of the body.
When grown as a houseplant, it may take a while to produce fruit, and the foliage may not be as large or dissected as it would be in its native habitat. However, it is quite attractive when grown in a hanging basket or trained to climb. It does not require lots of light or moisture but will be more vigorous if given ample sunlight and water. M. deliciosa albo-variegata has large dissected leaves with creamy-white and green variegation. USDA Zones 10 to 11.

got to get some of this plant!
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A beautiful vine and a chance at bearing fruit? Now I really want one .. already have it visualized in a nice plant hanger to start with!
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the only problem is the hardiness this plant freeze under -5C (I'm sorry for fahrenheit but here in Europe we just use Celsius for the temperatures)
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it does bear fruit. i want one too.
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Don't forget about the built in calculators we have here on our website. If you click the search link in the navbar below the logo on the top of the page, you will see the calculators fold out.
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I love the Monstera fruit, it's great. When they are ripe, they flake apart - the green hexagons or so flake off to reveal the sweet flesh inside, its like a honeycomb pattern inside, and something like corn on the cob the way the flesh comes off the "cob".
After a good hurricane here you can sometimes find them laying around with the debris. You can also find them if you just look for them, now that you know what to look for
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Although Iʻm no expert in Aroids, I know Monstera deliciosa very well and am certain the plant in my photo is not M. deliciosa. I know some people who know Aroids well and will try to get a proper ID.
Yes, it is more mature foliage of Pothos, Epipremnum pinnatum 'Aureum', aka Epipremnum aureum. Monstera deliciosa is something completely different.

Gabe, I can see this pic. I don't know why it wouldn't show it to me in AIM +.

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