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Old 09-25-2006, 02:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Musa x paradisiaca

I have ordered seeds of Musa x paradisiaca from rarepalmseeds.com.

However, I read that Musa x paradisiaca is French Plantain, which is a seedless cultivar.

So, how can they sell seeds of it?

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Old 09-25-2006, 03:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Musa x paradisiaca

I believe that the Musa x paradisiaca is just the name for the species of cooking bananas. There are many seedless cultivars inside this species including the French plantain, however, what you ordered is probably just the plain uncultivated species (Musa x paradisiaca) which will contain seeds.
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Old 09-25-2006, 05:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Musa x paradisiaca

Musa x paradisiaca does not exist. See Gabe's post in the Musa x paradisiaca 'Vittata' thread. It is an invalid species.

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Default Re: Musa x paradisiaca

Musa paradisiaca was the first Linnean name given to a banana plant, so it has hung on for a couple hundred years. It is probably a seeded hybrid between musa acuminata and m. balbisiana. Check HERE for the details.
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Default Re: Musa x paradisiaca

It could also be just Musa balbisiana. As was said before, it is not a real plant, it was indeed the first plant described, but since it was not a species it now a "type name" which simply means banana, like Musa paradisiaca=Musa=banana plant. If you post a picture of the seeds when you get it, we can help identify, Musa balbisiana has very distinct seeds. I think sometimes people take the word of seed dealers as truth, when most of the time they are very incorrect.
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Default Re: Musa x paradisiaca

Ok. I'll post picture of the seeds when I get them, but I have understood it can take pretty long time...

Thanks for help!

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Default Re: Musa x paradisiaca

I bought a nanner plant from someone in Puerto Rico (eBay) that they called Musa x paradisiaca. They said this one was from the jungles around there and that it gets sweet fruit. Since I don't really know what it is I just call it "Puerto Rico". The stem looks a bit different from my other plants.
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I bought a nanner plant from someone in Puerto Rico (eBay) that they called Musa x paradisiaca. They said this one was from the jungles around there and that it gets sweet fruit. Since I don't really know what it is I just call it "Puerto Rico". The stem looks a bit different from my other plants.
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I was just laughing at this. Being born in Puerto Rico and having lived there 25 years I can tell you that there are NO "true" jungles, only a considerable amount of "Rain Forests", but even on those ones, you can see a house with a barbecue at the yard and some cars parked at front, so "Not a true unmolested amazonian-like jungle", with natives and everything. Probably the guy was trying to mislead you. There are a varied amount of banana plants there, but just next time somebody tells you about the "jungles" there, tell them you've been there and saw nothing.

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LOL Carlos! I really had envisioned the true "jungle" in my head. Now I have to re-create my vision!
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Default Re: Musa x paradisiaca

I also bought the Musa X Paradisiaca seeds. Got one to geminate, but its growth is amazingly slow. It broke ground over 3 weeks ago and is still only and inch to an inch and a half tall. But, it's a banana plant nonetheless. So we will see, if it ever grows any more.
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Default Re: Musa x paradisiaca

At us sell such here seeds Musa paradisiaca. One at me has started to grow, we shall look what it there will be a plant. Gabe, look, they are similar on Musa balbisiana? Though our suppliers can sell any other seeds, under other name.

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Default Re: Musa x paradisiaca

I have a plant which I bought as X Paradisiaca, but what it is I don't really know. It's not just a Balbisiana, that much I do know. for further reference info on the subject check out David Constantine's excellent body of work.

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Default Re: Musa x paradisiaca

So...I'm now wondering about this particular black stemmed variety in Golden Gate Park, S.F., CA.



It says "Musa-Paradisiaca, Pan-Tropic Edible Plantain". Very Vague after reading this thread. There was no flower/fruit on it the 2 times I've visited it. It does have some red in the stem...



Will that peg it as an Acuminata cross, or do all bananas have a small amount of red in the stem base above the corm? My Saba (not s'posed to have red in it) had red just at the corm area also. I'll keep going there to watch for a bloom. Personally, I don't think they water it enough. It is in some sandy soil.

On another note, While at GGP, I noticed an unnamed huge clump of an Ensete looking plant, but different than my E. Superbum or E. V. Maurelli. It had several blooms, some with small unfilled fruits. It didn't seem that tall (12 feet with the leaves), but had incredible girth.

I will look closer whether it is pupping or just growing from dropped seeds and get some pics next time and perhaps some fruits as well. This one looked very healthy and well watered, even though it wasn't on display in the botanical gardens, but merely growing near a walkway out in the park near the gardens' entrance.
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